New project - Fúria EC020

Boboo_SK · 31 August 2012, 13:16

Hello!
this is my new project accelerator for A600:

Features
- MC68EC020 - 21,3 MHz (overlock 16MHz CPU, or 25MHz CPU)
- CPLD XC95144XL (Logic Glue, Beta test)
- 8MB FastRAM EDO 16-Bit, Auto-config (swapping 4MB or 8MB)
- 4MB mode, PCMCIA friendly
- WHDLoad compatible
- Multiplier LOCO, 3x 7MHz
- Indication LED 8MB-GO!
- IDE speed FFS 1,6MB per/s, PFS3 up to 2,1MB per/s
more here (Slovak language)

price not yet set...

nikos.rizos · 31 August 2012, 13:44

Well done mate

1time · 31 August 2012, 13:48

Love it.. Great work!

Predseda · 31 August 2012, 13:59

I hope this time there will be one piece for me as well

jbenam · 31 August 2012, 14:03

Lovely! It's great to see new hardware for A600

Boboo_SK · 31 August 2012, 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predseda

I hope this time there will be one piece for me as well

see here and read the last sentence :-)

Mohican · 31 August 2012, 14:13

Awesome! I watched with pleasure your previous Furia S628 project.
Impressive resume, congratulations!

Akira · 31 August 2012, 14:52

Awesome stuff! Love you Boboo

Maybe you could be, at some point, interested in doing something for the CD32 *hint hint*

Methanoid · 31 August 2012, 18:03

Great job. Looks very nice and good specs. If the price is good I would probably buy one.. so I'll be first to ask:

When can we buy?
When will a price be set?

Thanks!

Photon · 31 August 2012, 19:50

I'd love one with IDE for A500... *snif*

moijk · 31 August 2012, 21:23

When is people going to show the cd32 some love? :P

Supamax · 31 August 2012, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boboo_SK

see here and read the last sentence :-)

"Database error"

Boboo_SK · 31 August 2012, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

"Database error"

try again :-)

Supamax · 31 August 2012, 22:13

SleepyMan · 01 September 2012, 06:38

Nice, Lots of goodies for my amiga's :-)

Schoenfeld · 01 September 2012, 09:10

I would highly recommend to update the design to 32-bit fast memory. This 16-bit memory can't be called fast: The ACA620 clocked at 16.67MHz beats the FuriaEC020 by almost 600 Dhrystones. If you overclock the ACA620, it beats this card by over 1400 Dhrystones.

The EC020 processor can do *much* more than this. It's worth continuing the development here - you're on the right path!

Jens

hese · 01 September 2012, 09:21

How big batch you're planning to build?

johnim · 01 September 2012, 10:08

Looks nice

cosmicfrog · 01 September 2012, 13:28

ya the golden path

gibs · 01 September 2012, 15:36

LTAC · 01 September 2012, 19:13

Excellent project!

Why the voltmeter is it scrambled, above the keyboard?

TOP SECRET?

Jawd · 02 September 2012, 02:25

Looks great, always like new hw...

mikele · 02 September 2012, 11:45

Oh finally we are given any alternative to ACA 6x0 products. From the consumer's standpoint there's nothing worse than monopoly.

lesta_smsc · 02 September 2012, 11:50

Sorry - have I missed something? Do we know about the price of this?! Would be ideal for upgrading my A600!

rafgc · 02 September 2012, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

I would highly recommend to update the design to 32-bit fast memory. This 16-bit memory can't be called fast: The ACA620 clocked at 16.67MHz beats the FuriaEC020 by almost 600 Dhrystones. If you overclock the ACA620, it beats this card by over 1400 Dhrystones.

The EC020 processor can do *much* more than this. It's worth continuing the development here - you're on the right path!

Jens

This card is designed to use 16-bit RAM from the beggining and is a result of struggling with 68EC020 and blinking power led issue(one year long pause because of that and lowering determination as well). Problem was tracked down thanks to Yacube

Just think of this Project as fruit that you can harvest on certain point of self development. Next time this fruit will be better.

rafgc · 02 September 2012, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Awesome stuff! Love you Boboo

Maybe you could be, at some point, interested in doing something for the CD32 *hint hint*

At this point only Jens is able to do that unless somebody want to make a donation as big as 250.000 $ or more - Yep, you can't buy those connector anywhere, only setting up production is possible and that is what Jens could do.

Problem is, would be there enough people to buy CD32 expansion to pay production bill. Maybe Jens should add project to kickstarter and found out if he find enough people to make project possible.

desiv · 02 September 2012, 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikele

From the consumer's standpoint there's nothing worse than monopoly.

Yes there is..
Having no options (a no-opoly? :-)..

But more options is better..

desiv

Akira · 03 September 2012, 01:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by rafgc

At this point only Jens is able to do that unless somebody want to make a donation as big as 250.000 $ or more - Yep, you can't buy those connector anywhere, only setting up production is possible and that is what Jens could do.

Problem is, would be there enough people to buy CD32 expansion to pay production bill. Maybe Jens should add project to kickstarter and found out if he find enough people to make project possible.

Do you really need to use that expansion port? I mean, there might be other ways to connect to those lines and add memory+IDE...

twiggy · 03 September 2012, 23:26

Could a CD32 expansion connect via the CPU?

Akira · 04 September 2012, 01:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by twiggy

Could a CD32 expansion connect via the CPU?

Yeah I was thinking the same, having the 600 accelerators piggybacking on the 68000, perhaps it's possible too for other processors.

kipper2k · 04 September 2012, 02:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Yeah I was thinking the same, having the 600 accelerators piggybacking on the 68000, perhaps it's possible too for other processors.

there are no sockets capable of sitting on top of those processers

Akira · 04 September 2012, 12:04

well then...

cpiac64 · 04 September 2012, 13:21

the cd32 have a connector very similar to a1200, need create an adapter for use an accelerator for a1200, but is difficulty find a connector.

zetr0 used pci connector for test

rafgc · 04 September 2012, 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Do you really need to use that expansion port? I mean, there might be other ways to connect to those lines and add memory+IDE...

Nope, there isn't (Did you saw how CPU in CD32/A1200 looks like?). Even if such socket would exists, it should be very precise to fit between connectors and conatin insulation as well. Because of that precision it would cost as much as the accelerator itself at final price (look for smd adapters for programming devices).

There is a way to build custom connector from PCI sockets (at least 3 i think), but its time consuming and should be quite precise (read as boring and frustrating).

As i said, only somebody like Jens who have bought tooling for making such connectors is able to set production, but there is minimum quantity required and its proice is beyond reach for any decent hobbyist (unless he's rich).

Boboo_SK · 05 September 2012, 10:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

I would highly recommend to update the design to 32-bit fast memory. This 16-bit memory can't be called fast: The ACA620 clocked at 16.67MHz beats the FuriaEC020 by almost 600 Dhrystones. If you overclock the ACA620, it beats this card by over 1400 Dhrystones.

The EC020 processor can do *much* more than this. It's worth continuing the development here - you're on the right path!

Jens

I got intent, changes in the 32-Bit RAM

hooverphonique · 08 September 2012, 17:48

I agree with Jens - that this thing should use 32bit ram was the first thing that came to mind when reading the specs ;-)

kipper2k · 08 September 2012, 19:27

i think you need to base opinions on these accelerators by price and not so much on options, most of the Amigas in use today are for games that do not really see the benefit once basic upgrades have been done. Once the demands for WHDload games are satisfied there are going to be only a few people that will be counting Dhrystones. It's nice to have a choice and i don't think there's anything wrong with 16 bit ram

rafgc · 08 September 2012, 23:46

I agree, isn't 2700 DHR and 2MB IDE transfer enough for most whdload games? I mean it's not like you could run Doom with 32-bit, right?

Boboo_SK · 12 September 2012, 12:30

Furia EC020, working A300 board

Predseda · 12 September 2012, 12:40

I am running out of money now, I hope the sitation will be much better at the time Furia is available for sale.

31 August 2012, 13:16	#1
Boboo_SK Develop HW Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nitra / Slovakia Posts: 32	New project - Fúria EC020 Hello! this is my new project accelerator for A600: Features - MC68EC020 - 21,3 MHz (overlock 16MHz CPU, or 25MHz CPU) - CPLD XC95144XL (Logic Glue, Beta test) - 8MB FastRAM EDO 16-Bit, Auto-config (swapping 4MB or 8MB) - 4MB mode, PCMCIA friendly - WHDLoad compatible - Multiplier LOCO, 3x 7MHz - Indication LED 8MB-GO! - IDE speed FFS 1,6MB per/s, PFS3 up to 2,1MB per/s more here (Slovak language) price not yet set... __________________ AriseHD R6i Floppy interface, full 1,76MB; Dev. 2008-2011 FuriaS628 28MHz accelerator 1,5 SlowFast on board, FuriaRAM 8MB FastRAM; Dev. 2010-2012 Last edited by Boboo_SK; 31 August 2012 at 15:16.

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Methanoid Retired Quartex Sysop Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Roman Verulamium Age: 47 Posts: 1,441	Great job. Looks very nice and good specs. If the price is good I would probably buy one.. so I'll be first to ask: When can we buy? When will a price be set? Thanks! __________________ The thoughts of Chairman Methanoid at http://methanoid.blogspot.com

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Mohican Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Budapest / Hungary Posts: 21	Awesome! I watched with pleasure your previous Furia S628 project. Impressive resume, congratulations!

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lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 648	Sorry - have I missed something? Do we know about the price of this?! Would be ideal for upgrading my A600!

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