Details for the next generation of Flickerfixers from Individual Computers

[diablothe2nd]

Originally Posted by BarryB

Didn't say you or anyone else were bitching, I merely stated for it to NOT turn into a bitching session, that's all.

have we both had shitty days or something? :P you're pre-empting a bitchfest and I'm pre-empting it by being on the defensive

Originally Posted by BarryB

You also have various options regards the Indi AGA MKII:

1. Wait until the config tool is released.

indeed. and i intend to because frankly i'm sat on over £1300 of amiga here if i were to part with it, and i dont plan on doing that anytime soon

Originally Posted by BarryB

2. Take the matter up with Jens directly.

as he's a regular poster here, it was the logical choice

Originally Posted by BarryB

3. Return the product as 'not fit for purpose' seeing as functionality is missing and you've been waiting longer than you think is reasonably acceptable.

read above comment on the value of keeping it

Originally Posted by BarryB

4. Sell it on AmiBench/Amibay/eBay

no chance

Originally Posted by BarryB

5. It's obviously faulty so I'll take it off you hands for just the cost of the postage to me

even less chance than my response above

nice try though

[N-Ed]

Originally Posted by BarryB

Didn't say you or anyone else were bitching, I merely stated for it to NOT turn into a bitching session, that's all.

You also have various options regards the Indi AGA MKII:

1. Wait until the config tool is released.
2. Take the matter up with Jens directly.
3. Return the product as 'not fit for purpose' seeing as functionality is missing and you've been waiting longer than you think is reasonably acceptable.
4. Sell it on AmiBench/Amibay/eBay
5. It's obviously faulty so I'll take it off you hands for just the cost of the postage to me

6. Get a new monitor, LG Flatron MG2350D maybe
7. Enjoy scart while waiting for the software.
8. If above is not an option, RF?

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by diablothe2nd

have we both had shitty days or something? :P

Probably! Group Hugs anyone?

[diablothe2nd]

Originally Posted by BarryB

Probably! Group Hugs anyone?

[jimbob]

How are these on CRTs? I could soon be getting my first ever A1200 and obviously this will become an object of desire. I love the indiECS though it is also not without its problems but they are quirks rather than what seems to be quite serious trouble some of you are having with these.

[fitzsteve]

Originally Posted by jimbob

How are these on CRTs? I could soon be getting my first ever A1200 and obviously this will become an object of desire. I love the indiECS though it is also not without its problems but they are quirks rather than what seems to be quite serious trouble some of you are having with these.

My Indi ECS works perfect with every screen I tested it with.

My Indi AGA MkII works nice via DVI-HDMI on my Toshiba LCD but the native screens are still pushed to one side, not a big deal as it's a 16x9 screen.

Otherwise the image is sharp and clear.

[jimbob]

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

My Indi ECS works perfect with every screen I tested it with.

My Indi AGA MkII works nice via DVI-HDMI on my Toshiba LCD but the native screens are still pushed to one side, not a big deal as it's a 16x9 screen.

Otherwise the image is sharp and clear.

Yep my indiECS works properly on all screens I've tried, just sometimes has a problem getting into or staying in the 50Hz mode.

I would be using the MkII on a CRT via VGA. Anyone using this set up wit no issues? I haven't really been following this thread since I don't have a 1200 yet but I recall seeing something about an experimental screenmode that could damage a CRT?

[Mr B]

I've been using a OLD IBM CRT. (I mean like "holy crap, that thing has got to be 15 years old, don't you ever dust it of" old) IBM 6517 U7N. Worked perfectly with the Indi. However, it's been a part of my diagnostics center for about 15 years, and it was time to get updated. Mostly to cut back on electricity, and hence heat-generation in the work/play area. So it got replaced with a DELL E173FP. This has the added benefit that i can relocate the UPS from the floor next to the rack cabinet, and in to it, behind the monitor. I'll have to go through the cabling madness tomorrow, but it makes the darn thing slightly mobile again. (You need a forklift to get it anywhere far, but to be able to vacuum the floor is nice...)


The DELL has the same vertical banding artifact as others have reported. Hardly noticeable in most games, but then, i'm running a stock config, no extra drivers, or anything. I'm not going to complain about the lack of configuration utilities, the point of my post is to state that the IBM CRT screen (IBM 6517 U7N) works flawlessly, and for a dedicated Amiga system it could be a good choice with it's integrated sound, where as the DELL E173FP, at least for now, is a bad choice.

[jimbob]

Thanks MrB. I'm one step closer to pulling the trigger

[Riempie]

I don't know if this post belongs in the Indy thread or in the ACA thread but my problem for now is that I can't run super highres resolutions on my A1200's (gfx distortions after +/- 10 or 20 mintues).

I thought I had solved my gfx-distortion issue but I probably just had a lucky evening.

Here's the thing:
1x A1200 rev 2B (NOS) with timing fixes, Indy MK2, Fan on top of Indy, Heatsink on Alice
1x A1200 rev 1D4 no timing fixes, Indy MK2, Fan on top of Indy, Heatsink on Alice

I have 3 ACA cards (1230 28mhz, 1230 56mhz and 1231 42 mhz)

In my tests I only tried the 56mhz and 42 mhz cards.

Test with ACA 1231 42mhz

rev 1D4, super hires laced, ACA 1231 42 mhz, ACATune 1.5e: gfx corruptions, unstable
rev 1D4, hires laced, ACA 1231 42 mhz, ACATune 1.5e: stable
rev 2B, ACA 1231 42 mhz, ACATune 1.5e: amiga hangs at startup. Reset results in purple insert disc screen
rev 2B, super hires laced, ACA 1231 42 mhz, ACATune 1.02b5: Amiga boots, gfx corruptions and ACAtune version doesn't support ACA-card.

Conclusion for rev 2B and ACA 1231 42 mhz: no working combination possible.
Conclusion for rev 1D4 and ACA 1231 42 mhz: no super highres resolution possible.

Test with ACA 1230 56mhz

rev 2B, timing fixes, ACA 1230 56 mhz, ACATune 1.5e: amiga hangs at startup. Reset results in purple insert disc screen
rev 2B, timing fixes, super hires laced, ACA 1230 56 mhz, ACATune 1.02b5: gfx corruptions, unstable
rev 2B, timing fixes, hires laced, ACA 1230 56mhz, ACATune 1.02b5: stable

Conclusion for rev 2B and ACA 1230 56mhz: no super highres resolution possible


Still to test further: rev 1D4 and ACA 1230 56mhz, but already know it has gfx issues with super pal high res laced.

This must be a weak chipset problem (as discussed in this forum before) although it's strange both ACA cards doesn't seem to work with ACATune 1.5e on my rev 2B motherboard. (this problem probably belongs in the ACA thread)

I've read that a cooler on Alice might help, but as I've placed a heatsink this doen't seem to work for me.

So: Is the only solution for me now to try the fix mentioned in this post? http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...postcount=1009

Has anybody else solved the problem of a weak chipset and super highres resolutions resulting in gfx distortions? I've searched this thread carefully but haven't found a real solution yet.

If it's allowed I might even drive over to Vesalia to help me out and bring my whole setup to them I would even pay for a fix (I'm not capable of it). I'm not very keen to send my setup to Amigakit (bought the Indy and 56mhz card from them) or Vesalia (bought the 42mhz card from them) by post.

I can imagine everybody is getting tired of all these posts about these/my issues, so if that's the case then I'm sorry

[Retrofan]

I have the idea that we can't be sure of problems of graphic corruptions as long as the core update won't be released. How can you be sure if your problem is a necessary timing fix or the 1k fix if perhaps it is just a problem with your monitor and a software update?

[duga]

Are you sure you have a good power supply? Is it connected to a grounded wall socket?

[Riempie]

Originally Posted by Retrofan

I have the idea that we can't be sure of problems of graphic corruptions as long as the core update won't be released. How can you be sure if your problem is a necessary timing fix or the 1k fix if perhaps it is just a problem with your monitor and a software update?

I'm not sure what's causing this, but I assumed a weak chipset is the cause reading the answers from Jens in this thread. But if something else is causing this, then it's completely a black box for me (and probably everyone else).

As for the power supply. I have a 300 watt power supply but connected to a multiple socket (don't know how it's called in english). I'll try to connect the powersupply to a grounded wall socket.

[duga]

Do you have a multimeter? The power supply should deliver +5 Volt +/- 5% (4,75-5,25 Volt).

[Riempie]

I don't have a multimeter

[NovaCoder]

Jens,

Any ETA on the long awaited firmware update?

[BarryB]

I guess he's too busy with other projects now to bother with this

[Mr B]

I'm not entirely sure, but i think he's got help making the code, while he works new hardware projects.

[lolof]

He should finish this first. Respect to the buyer !
This take a long time now.... I regret to have bought it! Almost useless without a proper monitor. Sorry to say that but I think someone has to tell what most buyer are probably thinking... I will never buy sometning from ecs again, this is not really fair. No information is a miss of respect to poeple waiting for the dvi output to work properly. I understand that all of this is beta but common........ This was my first and last product from this guy. We paid each much money for this product and we have the right to have some good information. It's not that he is working for free on the project!

[BarryB]

Hey, lolof, you're just down the road from Jens so why not nip round and knock on his door and ask him what's going on!!

[Mr B]

Originally Posted by lolof

He should finish this first. Respect to the buyer !

Again, it's my understanding that Jens does the hardware, and that there is someone else that does the firmware. What's your idea, that Jens sits on his hands, while the guy who has the know how, writes the code?

Don't get me wrong, i want to be able to use my miggy on the LG TV as soon as possible, but i don't see the point in forbidding Jens from making progress on other projects just coz the guy who is making the firmware isn't done with all the tweaks and enhancements, and have a release ready firmware & config-utility.

I've been holding of on testing the trial cores as i don't have any way to return to default, should i end up with something unusable, but it's an option you might want to try...
B!

[johnim]

@mr b you can backup the origional core and try the others with the flashtool

[Mr B]

Yeah, but you cant restore the core if it stops working with the screens ya got. So i've decided to postpone it. I got a mate with a TV that works, but i'm going to be at his place when the configuration tools gets here, so i can mess up over and over. Don't want to wear out my welcome, so to speak.

[Schoenfeld]

Hi,

I just talked to the programmer of the config tool on the phone - he still has to take care of a family member who is in hospital. He's hoping to get back to work on the config tool next week, but in case he can't, he handed over the sources to me already, so I can find someone else to work on the config tool.

I'm very sorry about this delay, but this is due to circumstances that I cannot influence. I'm happy to arrange money-back for anyone who is not satisfied with the product until now, because I cannot give a release date for the config tool.

Jens

[paulo_becas]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

Hi,

I just talked to the programmer of the config tool on the phone - he still has to take care of a family member who is in hospital. He's hoping to get back to work on the config tool next week, but in case he can't, he handed over the sources to me already, so I can find someone else to work on the config tool.

I'm very sorry about this delay, but this is due to circumstances that I cannot influence. I'm happy to arrange money-back for anyone who is not satisfied with the product until now, because I cannot give a release date for the config tool.

Jens

There's no problem to me, hope it gets better (family member)
And there's no way i'm sending it back
Keep up the good work Jens and thank's for puting up with all the bitching around.
It comes out when it must come out.
Whenever it does it's always on time

[NovaCoder]

Hiya Jens,

Thanks for the update

[Mr B]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

I'm happy to arrange money-back for anyone who is not satisfied with the product until now, because I cannot give a release date for the config tool.

Money back? Sure, i'd love that. What, returning the Indivision? Forget that. I might save a few bucks on the exchange rates, but the hassle, there is just no way it's worth it.
As long as there is a promise that there will be a config tool, I'm going to keep it. Even if i can only use it for tests on a temporary screen as it is now, your going to have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

When i bought it, i knew the config tool would be a while. It has been a while, so i guess we are now in the " a while longer" which at some time turns in to a "long while", but as long as there is something in the end, i've got time. I'm gong to live for ever.

[BarryB]

Promises, promises! We can all run a business on promises, don't forget money exchanged hands here for this product and people want it working!

Now, Jens has openly said there is a problem so fair do's to the bloke for being honest and telling us so we'll cut him some slack for the time being, but you can only wait for so long.

[delshay]

Had a indivision MKII for two months,never tested it,never inserted onto a A1200 motherboard,not returning it because software is not released.

[strim]

Hello Jens.

Maybe you could at least release the documentation on how to program the new Indivisions? You used to give out the documentation and in my opinion that worked well. It's a pity that docs are not always available for your latest products.

I've bought 3 (three) new Indivision AGAs, they work mostly fine but and I'd like to play with them more.

Best regards!

[Srdjan]

Just received one from Vesalia, first i plugged it into my "working A1200", with blizz 1230 IV, 4 way Ide and 4gb cf card, the picture was full of vertical lines,after i stripped Amiga to only motherboard and the picture was the same.

I also tried to switch the power supply without success, the last thing to try is to switch the dvi-vga adapter...

Has anyone experienced similar problems??

[johnim]

hi Srdjan its the same for all of us

[Srdjan]

Thank you for your reply,
You mean there is no help?I don't understand where is the problem, i'v seen other people screenshots with crystal clear picture ... is it the problem in the motherboard , in the lcd or is the indivision problem? I have chance to swap lcd with friend , will that help? It is very annoying to finally have something i waited for almost 15 years, and to found out that is not working... on screenshot you can't clearly see the lines but when amiga boots up in workbench the lines are clearly visible ... even whn i power up amiga on blank black screen you can see the lines

[Mr B]

The vertical stripes are an artefact of the combination screen & Indivision. Untill the configuration tool arrives, the only thing you can do is try a different screen.

[1time]

Srdjan... We all have the same problem.. We have absolutely no clue when this will be fixed, if ever.

It is the lack of software updates and tools. The same is for the ACA1230 and ACA1231. It is not even possible to download the software or manual from he´s webpage.

Personally im using my old flickerfixer and a trusty Blizzard 1230.

[Schoenfeld]

Originally Posted by 1time

It is the lack of software updates and tools. The same is for the ACA1230 and ACA1231. It is not even possible to download the software or manual from he´s webpage.

ACA1230: The latest ACAtune tool that is known-good for the card is available from icomp.de.

ACA1231: This is an OEM product for/from Vesalia. The latest ACAtune tool is available from vesalia.de. It also supports the ACA1230 and adds functionality like kickstart-patching and moving VBR into fastmem.

Indivision AGA MK2: The programmer is back on the job since thursday.

Jens

[1time]

Ohh.. I must have missed the ACA1230 latest link on your homepage.. Could you please post a link to it?

I cant find it on http://www.jschoenfeld.com/products/ACA1230.htm or on http://www.jschoenfeld.com/home/support.htm

[BarryB]

@1time: Try this: http://www.vesalia.de/files/acatune.lha

[amigarobbo]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

Indivision AGA MK2: The programmer is back on the job since thursday.

Well, good for him, but any updates when he'll start on writing the software?

[Srdjan]

Originally Posted by 1time

Srdjan... We all have the same problem.. We have absolutely no clue when this will be fixed, if ever.

Just to make my story short, during the day i swap 3 lcd with indivision aga... none of them seems to work... the picture is totally useless... seems like the update is the only solution till then back to trusty old 1084.....