Original WB3.0 Disk Corrupt

caleebra · 08 August 2012, 13:55

Hi All,

As mentioned in my other posts, I'm just returning to the scene with my de-attic'd A1200, but I was far from a power user back in the day, just a gamer.

I tried loading WB3.0 from original floppy last night and I've got a corrupt sector - any way of rescuing/replacing that disk?

It's not a total showstopper for me as I have one of Ian Berry's CF disks all fully loaded up with ClassicWB ready to install, but I'd like to have the original WB stuff available if I can.

Thanks,

Lee

lesta_smsc · 08 August 2012, 19:48

I know the WB 3.0 is available in TOSEC - I suppose legally, if you have the original, then there should be no harm in obtaining the ADF?

Retrofan · 08 August 2012, 19:54

It happened the same to me with the Workbench 3.0 floppy. I found an adf in Emule, so I could save it again in the same floppy.

Arnie · 08 August 2012, 20:55

Same here, my A600HD Install disk had a read error, so I found an adf and wrote over the faulty disk.

caleebra · 08 August 2012, 21:28

Cheers for the replies guys!

Assuming I acquire an ADF onto my PC, would I be able to simply copy that onto my CF drive using UAE, move the CF to the real 'miga then re-write the image onto the floppy using some app?

prowler · 08 August 2012, 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by caleebra

Cheers for the replies guys!

Assuming I acquire an ADF onto my PC, would I be able to simply copy that onto my CF drive using UAE, move the CF to the real 'miga then re-write the image onto the floppy using some app?

Yes, and I would suggest TSGui for restoring the image to the disk.

In fact, you might even find that TSGui will get a good image from your original disk if you use retries on the bad track.

caleebra · 11 August 2012, 09:49

Well I'm not sure if I did the text book way, but I booted from my CF with Classic WB in WinUAE then inserted the ADF into an emu-floppy drive and copied the files off the ADF over to the CF using Dopus.

I then put the CF into the real Amiga (rapido booto!), did a quick format of the original disk and then tried copying the files but I keep getting disk errors.

Does it sound like an irretrievable bad floppy situation??

Cheers!

FOL · 11 August 2012, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by caleebra

Well I'm not sure if I did the text book way, but I booted from my CF with Classic WB in WinUAE then inserted the ADF into an emu-floppy drive and copied the files off the ADF over to the CF using Dopus.

I then put the CF into the real Amiga (rapido booto!), did a quick format of the original disk and then tried copying the files but I keep getting disk errors.

Does it sound like an irretrievable bad floppy situation??

Cheers!

Do a full format with verify. Then try again.

caleebra · 14 August 2012, 11:45

Format with verify failed, something like "Cannot format cylinder 39."

Is it worth trying another floppy drive, or just consign the disk to the bin?

Bamiga2002 · 14 August 2012, 15:22

Clean the floppy drive with a cleaning disk with fluid and try again.

thomas · 14 August 2012, 17:54

If all files were successfully copied to the disk without write errors, then you should forget about cylinder 39, it is not needed then. But don't put away this CF card with the files too far.

BTW, if it is the WB disk, then after format you need to INSTALL DF0: in order to make it bootable again.

lesta_smsc · 14 August 2012, 21:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Yes, and I would suggest TSGui for restoring the image to the disk.

In fact, you might even find that TSGui will get a good image from your original disk if you use retries on the bad track.

Thanks for this! I always used ADF2disk!

Arnie · 14 August 2012, 21:05

If you want to keep the original floppy outer case then you can carefully prise open the case and insert the "inner" disk from another floppy disk.

caleebra · 15 August 2012, 11:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

If you want to keep the original floppy outer case then you can carefully prise open the case and insert the "inner" disk from another floppy disk.

Oooh, now that is some cunning hackery. I shall try the other suggestions first and then give that a spin, no pun intended.

Thanks all!

caleebra · 15 August 2012, 22:48

So I ended up just formatting a spare floppy and transplanting the magnetic element into the original WB3.0 case.

I had tried formatting in both WB, Dopus (with verify ticked) and using a utility I found called FixDisk. No joy.

Thanks for all the helpful suggestions!

lesta_smsc · 16 August 2012, 03:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

If you want to keep the original floppy outer case then you can carefully prise open the case and insert the "inner" disk from another floppy disk.

Great trick! I used to do this approach to keep the nice printed cases!

08 August 2012, 13:55	#1
caleebra Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 13	Original WB3.0 Disk Corrupt Hi All, As mentioned in my other posts, I'm just returning to the scene with my de-attic'd A1200, but I was far from a power user back in the day, just a gamer. I tried loading WB3.0 from original floppy last night and I've got a corrupt sector - any way of rescuing/replacing that disk? It's not a total showstopper for me as I have one of Ian Berry's CF disks all fully loaded up with ClassicWB ready to install, but I'd like to have the original WB stuff available if I can. Thanks, Lee

08 August 2012, 19:54	#3
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 2,663	It happened the same to me with the Workbench 3.0 floppy. I found an adf in Emule, so I could save it again in the same floppy. __________________ AmiKit for Real Amigas Released, Click Here A1200 1D1, 8Gb SSD Hd, ACA 1231/42. A1200 2B, Lateral slot for Cf Hd's, Tray system Dvd. ACA1230/56, Fast Ata MKII, Indivision MkII with Hdmi. A1200 1D1, Lateral slot for Cf Hd's, Tray system Dvd, Clockport expander, Delfina, Subway, IDefix, BPPC, BVision, Acard with lateral slot for Scsi Cf HD... C=64 with ITX inside. Posting with it.

08 August 2012, 20:55	#4
Arnie Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 55 Posts: 1,125	Same here, my A600HD Install disk had a read error, so I found an adf and wrote over the faulty disk. __________________ A600, 2GB CF HD, KS3.1, WB3.1, A604, EasyADF, PCMCIA + 4GB CF.

14 August 2012, 11:45	#9
caleebra Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 13	Format with verify failed, something like "Cannot format cylinder 39." Is it worth trying another floppy drive, or just consign the disk to the bin? __________________ A1200, 3.0 ROMs, 4GB CF IDE HDD, 8MB Fast Ram (DKB1202)

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Bamiga2002 Blizzard PPC club rocks! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 35 Posts: 2,687	Clean the floppy drive with a cleaning disk with fluid and try again. __________________ A1200 BlizzardPPC 603e+ 366Mhz 060/64Mhz - D-Box tower Mediator TX + \|Voodoo3\|10MB Ethernet\|Nec USB\| - OS3.9 (BoingBag powered) CD32 - original joypad & honeybee - join the Finnish Amiga Users group join the Blizzard PPC club! check out PPC-Warp3D games speed boost! me @ amigamap.com Project Rutinski band website - rock music with punk attitude!

08 August 2012, 19:48	#2
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 645	I know the WB 3.0 is available in TOSEC - I suppose legally, if you have the original, then there should be no harm in obtaining the ADF?

08 August 2012, 21:28	#5
caleebra Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 13	Cheers for the replies guys! Assuming I acquire an ADF onto my PC, would I be able to simply copy that onto my CF drive using UAE, move the CF to the real 'miga then re-write the image onto the floppy using some app?

11 August 2012, 09:49	#7
caleebra Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 13	Well I'm not sure if I did the text book way, but I booted from my CF with Classic WB in WinUAE then inserted the ADF into an emu-floppy drive and copied the files off the ADF over to the CF using Dopus. I then put the CF into the real Amiga (rapido booto!), did a quick format of the original disk and then tried copying the files but I keep getting disk errors. Does it sound like an irretrievable bad floppy situation?? Cheers!

14 August 2012, 17:54	#11
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 3,898	If all files were successfully copied to the disk without write errors, then you should forget about cylinder 39, it is not needed then. But don't put away this CF card with the files too far. BTW, if it is the WB disk, then after format you need to INSTALL DF0: in order to make it bootable again. __________________ Home: thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online.de Email: thomas-rapp@web.de

14 August 2012, 21:05	#13
Arnie Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 55 Posts: 1,125	If you want to keep the original floppy outer case then you can carefully prise open the case and insert the "inner" disk from another floppy disk. __________________ A600, 2GB CF HD, KS3.1, WB3.1, A604, EasyADF, PCMCIA + 4GB CF.

15 August 2012, 22:48	#15
caleebra Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 13	So I ended up just formatting a spare floppy and transplanting the magnetic element into the original WB3.0 case. I had tried formatting in both WB, Dopus (with verify ticked) and using a utility I found called FixDisk. No joy. Thanks for all the helpful suggestions! __________________ A1200, 3.0 ROMs, 4GB CF IDE HDD, 8MB Fast Ram (DKB1202)

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