Heroes of the Lance & Dragons of Flame

mk1 · 05 April 2010, 14:11

Hi,

I'd be happy to see both these SSI games WHDified as they seem to be really picky about the hardware they run on. At the moment it would seem that I'd need to buy an A500 to be able to play these on a "real thing" so I'd be happy to supply both games to whoever could make the WHDLoads instead.

Calgor · 05 April 2010, 15:59

I had requested Heroes of the Lance here late 2008, but I don't think there are enough capable programmers free. Maybe if one of the coders could somehow be tricked into getting hooked on the game?

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=487883&postcount=27

mk1 · 06 April 2010, 09:30

Yeah, those games are rather bad gameplay wise but I still think they deserve the WHDload treatment. I'm sure it's not a big task as you could make them run almost with degraders etc.

Calgor · 06 April 2010, 10:28

I actually liked Heroes of the Lance gameplay and music intro wise. Especially going for the jumps over cliffs. Smiley was not for they are bad.

Hillsy_ · 27 August 2011, 22:03

I was just recently playing this on the PC, the intro music came on then...all silent throughout the game. Then I was reminded, Heroes of the Lance was also an Amiga game..but then I looked and no WHDLoad version, I was surprised! I didn't know Dragon of Flame wasn't there too. Damn, oh well..add another to the wishlist for WHDfied..

+1 Heroes of the Lance WHDLoad Version.. and I might as well join the crowd and say
+1 Dragon of Flame WHDLoad Version.

I hope these get the WHDLoad treatment someday, and for any of those who do undertake the task I salute you.

Now where are my Heroes ADF's.. Might aswell dig out the old Dragon of Flame too..

TTD · 20 September 2011, 19:09

Would love to see a WHDLoad version of this game, that is working.

lost_loven · 06 February 2012, 02:20

just bumping this heehhe i remember a buddy bought Heroes Of The Lance and i borrowed it the same day and beat it in 2 hrs. But still a good game. Would love to see a whdload version of this. sooooo BUMP BUMP please somebody...

lost

desiv · 28 April 2012, 05:57

Funny, I was going thru some disks I'd picked up a bit ago, and one of them was Dragon's of Flame..
And I realized, I hadn't tried it yet...

Now, I have some "uniquely equipped" Amigas.

So, I try it in my Amiga 500...
What's unique? He has a DKB MegaCHIP for 2M CHIP and a homebrew non-autoconfig 8M Fast RAM card.
So I try the game.. GURU.. Hmm

OK, I try it on my Amiga 1000. He has 512k CHIP standard, but also a homebew non-autoconfig 4M Fast RAM card AND a homebrew non-autoconfig CF/IDE sidecar drive.
So I try the game, and I get some words... Color changes, and.. NOTHING..

I research, and it doesn't like too much CHIP (someone said)..
So I get a degrader and try the A500 again, tell it half a meg CHIP...
I get letters.. and a color change and nothing..

OK, what's up with the A1000? It should probably work there...
Ah.. I have a KickWork floppy, which has the kickstart, which is patched and then it boots (same floppy) and loads the IDE driver and passes control to the CF/IDE..
SO.. I get my standard Kickstart floppy. Boot. OK..
Dragon's of Flame disk.. letters.. and ... GAME!!!!

Still not sure why it didn't like my A500 (DKB Megachip, even tho I degraded?), but it likes the A1000 with a standard kickstart..

Don't think I'll bother trying on my A1200.. ;-)

And actually, I died REALLY FAST not knowing what I was doing.. Not sure I'm too impressed with that game..

And... It's VERY picky..

:-)

desiv

StingRay · 28 April 2012, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by lost_loven

Would love to see a whdload version of this. sooooo BUMP BUMP please somebody...

I am currently working on WHDLoad patches for both games. They'll hopefully be finished soon.

Calgor · 30 April 2012, 13:04

@ StingRay

Look forward to it.

lost_loven · 30 April 2012, 23:57

awesome!!!!!
done yet.. done yet????

lost

StingRay · 02 May 2012, 08:36

I just got Dragons of Flame working when I arrived at work.

Heroes of The Lance is not yet working due to an access fault which I need to fix.

lolafg · 02 May 2012, 15:34

It's great to see you're back here !

Hope you'll think to me too

StingRay · 15 July 2012, 20:44

I have finished the Heroes of the Lance patch and just sent it to Wepl. Should be available on the WHDLoad site soon.

Dragons of Flame patch is almost finished too but there are some graphics errors left to fix.

Retroplay · 15 July 2012, 22:26

Hi StingRay, I get this error when trying to run your Heroes of the Lance slave.

Code:

DOS-Error #218
(device (or volume) is not mounted)
on locking "SOURCES:WHD_Slaves/HeroesOfTheLance/

Never seen that error message before.

StingRay · 15 July 2012, 22:33

Hmm, looks like there's the debug version of the slave in the archive. I'll fix that, thanks for reporting!

xaind · 16 July 2012, 06:23

I ran the install and played the game through to completion. Everything works very well (I re-assembled the slave to get rid of the debug issue).

I really like how you've done such a thorough job - QuitKey, Manual protection removed and the new multiple-saves system. A truly excellent piece of work.

Thank you very much also for releasing the source.

StingRay · 16 July 2012, 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by xaind

I ran the install and played the game through to completion. Everything works very well (I re-assembled the slave to get rid of the debug issue).

That's nice to hear!

And it's one of the reasons that I always release my patches with source, if there are problems people can play with the source to fix them like you did here. Cool!
I sent the release version of the slave to Wepl yesterday, should hopefully be available on the WHDLoad site soon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xaind

I really like how you've done such a thorough job - QuitKey, Manual protection removed and the new multiple-saves system. A truly excellent piece of work.

Thank you very much also for releasing the source.

Thanks for your kind words. I actually release all my WHDLoad patches with full sources.

Now I'll have to fix the graphics bugs in Dragons of Flame and then that one is finished too.

Thanks a lot for your feedback, much appreciated.

Whitesnake · 16 July 2012, 17:26

Testing on Amiga 600 030 33mhz, works perfectly so far.

I have a small improvement suggestion. Using JoyFire2 to bring up the game menu like Spacebar would be really useful.

Good job.

StingRay · 16 July 2012, 22:37

Good idea indeed. Will be implemented some time in the future.

Thanks for testing and feedback.

Telemachus · 08 February 2013, 01:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

Good idea indeed. Will be implemented some time in the future.

Thanks for testing and feedback.

Hi StingRay could you upload this to the zone again

I'd like to test it.

Space bar remap to joystick always a good idea.

Minuous · 08 February 2013, 04:04

@Stingray:

WHDLoad support for Dragons of Flame would be much appreciated...

StingRay · 08 February 2013, 07:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telemachus

Hi StingRay could you upload this to the zone again I'd like to test it.

If no one else does it before me I'll upload a preinstalled version of the patch when I'm back home from work.

If you have the Heroes of the Lance disk you can download the patch from the WHDLoad site and install it yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minuous

WHDLoad support for Dragons of Flame would be much appreciated...

The Dragons of Flame patch is more or less finished but there are graphics problems which I couldn't fix yet (as I don't know the reason). Hence I didn't release it yet.

mk1 · 08 February 2013, 18:08

Wow! Been away from the Amiga stuff for a while and as the starter of this thread I also would like to thank StingRay for finally doing this!

Feels even better to be back again!

Edit: I did actually buy an A500 again (after selling mine in 1992) just to play this game because no patches showed up. Not necessarily a bad thing and now I just might have one spare A500 to sell...

SolderPCB · 07 March 2013, 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telemachus

Hi StingRay could you upload this to the zone again

I'd like to test it.

Space bar remap to joystick always a good idea.

Action would flow better with this.

Calgor · 26 March 2013, 16:35

Just a message of thanks to StingRay!!!

StingRay · 12 May 2013, 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitesnake

I have a small improvement suggestion. Using JoyFire2 to bring up the game menu like Spacebar would be really useful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telemachus

Space bar remap to joystick always a good idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolderPCB

Action would flow better with this.

A new update of the Heroes of the Lance patch is now available, second fire button is now supported and can be used to open the menu during game.

You can still use the "any key"

(not just space bar) to open the menu too of course.

05 April 2010, 14:11	#1
mk1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Helsinki / Finland Posts: 355	Heroes of the Lance & Dragons of Flame Hi, I'd be happy to see both these SSI games WHDified as they seem to be really picky about the hardware they run on. At the moment it would seem that I'd need to buy an A500 to be able to play these on a "real thing" so I'd be happy to supply both games to whoever could make the WHDLoads instead.

02 May 2012, 08:36	#12
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 4,547	I just got Dragons of Flame working when I arrived at work. Heroes of The Lance is not yet working due to an access fault which I need to fix. __________________ Makes me sick when I hear all the shit that you say So much crap coming out, it must take you all day There's a space kept in hell with your name on the seat With a spike in the chair just to make it complete

15 July 2012, 20:44	#14
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 4,547	I have finished the Heroes of the Lance patch and just sent it to Wepl. Should be available on the WHDLoad site soon. Dragons of Flame patch is almost finished too but there are some graphics errors left to fix. __________________ Makes me sick when I hear all the shit that you say So much crap coming out, it must take you all day There's a space kept in hell with your name on the seat With a spike in the chair just to make it complete

15 July 2012, 22:26	#15
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Frederikshavn, Denmark Age: 38 Posts: 1,938	Hi StingRay, I get this error when trying to run your Heroes of the Lance slave. Code: DOS-Error #218 (device (or volume) is not mounted) on locking "SOURCES:WHD_Slaves/HeroesOfTheLance/ Never seen that error message before. __________________ RIP mom (1953-2008)

15 July 2012, 22:33	#16
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 4,547	Hmm, looks like there's the debug version of the slave in the archive. I'll fix that, thanks for reporting! __________________ Makes me sick when I hear all the shit that you say So much crap coming out, it must take you all day There's a space kept in hell with your name on the seat With a spike in the chair just to make it complete

05 April 2010, 15:59	#2
Calgor Amigas > Amigos Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anrea Posts: 991	I had requested Heroes of the Lance here late 2008, but I don't think there are enough capable programmers free. Maybe if one of the coders could somehow be tricked into getting hooked on the game? http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=487883&postcount=27

06 April 2010, 09:30	#3
mk1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Helsinki / Finland Posts: 355	Yeah, those games are rather bad gameplay wise but I still think they deserve the WHDload treatment. I'm sure it's not a big task as you could make them run almost with degraders etc.

06 April 2010, 10:28	#4
Calgor Amigas > Amigos Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anrea Posts: 991	I actually liked Heroes of the Lance gameplay and music intro wise. Especially going for the jumps over cliffs. Smiley was not for they are bad.

27 August 2011, 22:03	#5
Hillsy_ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 40 Posts: 221	I was just recently playing this on the PC, the intro music came on then...all silent throughout the game. Then I was reminded, Heroes of the Lance was also an Amiga game..but then I looked and no WHDLoad version, I was surprised! I didn't know Dragon of Flame wasn't there too. Damn, oh well..add another to the wishlist for WHDfied.. +1 Heroes of the Lance WHDLoad Version.. and I might as well join the crowd and say +1 Dragon of Flame WHDLoad Version. I hope these get the WHDLoad treatment someday, and for any of those who do undertake the task I salute you. Now where are my Heroes ADF's.. Might aswell dig out the old Dragon of Flame too..

20 September 2011, 19:09	#6
TTD Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Copenhagen/Denmark Posts: 111	Would love to see a WHDLoad version of this game, that is working.

06 February 2012, 02:20	#7
lost_loven Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: winnipeg Posts: 284	just bumping this heehhe i remember a buddy bought Heroes Of The Lance and i borrowed it the same day and beat it in 2 hrs. But still a good game. Would love to see a whdload version of this. sooooo BUMP BUMP please somebody... lost

28 April 2012, 05:57	#8
desiv Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 849	Funny, I was going thru some disks I'd picked up a bit ago, and one of them was Dragon's of Flame.. And I realized, I hadn't tried it yet... Now, I have some "uniquely equipped" Amigas. So, I try it in my Amiga 500... What's unique? He has a DKB MegaCHIP for 2M CHIP and a homebrew non-autoconfig 8M Fast RAM card. So I try the game.. GURU.. Hmm OK, I try it on my Amiga 1000. He has 512k CHIP standard, but also a homebew non-autoconfig 4M Fast RAM card AND a homebrew non-autoconfig CF/IDE sidecar drive. So I try the game, and I get some words... Color changes, and.. NOTHING.. I research, and it doesn't like too much CHIP (someone said).. So I get a degrader and try the A500 again, tell it half a meg CHIP... I get letters.. and a color change and nothing.. OK, what's up with the A1000? It should probably work there... Ah.. I have a KickWork floppy, which has the kickstart, which is patched and then it boots (same floppy) and loads the IDE driver and passes control to the CF/IDE.. SO.. I get my standard Kickstart floppy. Boot. OK.. Dragon's of Flame disk.. letters.. and ... GAME!!!! Still not sure why it didn't like my A500 (DKB Megachip, even tho I degraded?), but it likes the A1000 with a standard kickstart.. Don't think I'll bother trying on my A1200.. ;-) And actually, I died REALLY FAST not knowing what I was doing.. Not sure I'm too impressed with that game.. And... It's VERY picky.. :-) desiv

30 April 2012, 13:04	#10
Calgor Amigas > Amigos Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anrea Posts: 991	@ StingRay Look forward to it.

30 April 2012, 23:57	#11
lost_loven Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: winnipeg Posts: 284	awesome!!!!! done yet.. done yet???? lost

02 May 2012, 15:34	#13
lolafg Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Tours/France Age: 41 Posts: 1,041	It's great to see you're back here ! Hope you'll think to me too

16 July 2012, 06:23	#17
xaind Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney / Australia Posts: 95	I ran the install and played the game through to completion. Everything works very well (I re-assembled the slave to get rid of the debug issue). I really like how you've done such a thorough job - QuitKey, Manual protection removed and the new multiple-saves system. A truly excellent piece of work. Thank you very much also for releasing the source.

16 July 2012, 17:26	#19
Whitesnake Martin Shaw Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 319	Testing on Amiga 600 030 33mhz, works perfectly so far. I have a small improvement suggestion. Using JoyFire2 to bring up the game menu like Spacebar would be really useful. Good job. __________________ Hi, I'm Martin Shaw. This is Run The Gauntlet. If you want to see Action Sports.... This is the place to be! EFNet #Amiga

16 July 2012, 22:37	#20
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 4,547	Good idea indeed. Will be implemented some time in the future. Thanks for testing and feedback. __________________ Makes me sick when I hear all the shit that you say So much crap coming out, it must take you all day There's a space kept in hell with your name on the seat With a spike in the chair just to make it complete

08 February 2013, 04:04	#22
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 1,148	@Stingray: WHDLoad support for Dragons of Flame would be much appreciated... __________________ Programmer, Amigan Software

08 February 2013, 18:08	#24
mk1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Helsinki / Finland Posts: 355	Wow! Been away from the Amiga stuff for a while and as the starter of this thread I also would like to thank StingRay for finally doing this! Feels even better to be back again! Edit: I did actually buy an A500 again (after selling mine in 1992) just to play this game because no patches showed up. Not necessarily a bad thing and now I just might have one spare A500 to sell...

26 March 2013, 16:35	#26
Calgor Amigas > Amigos Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anrea Posts: 991	Just a message of thanks to StingRay!!!

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