Amiga movies possible on stock OCS machine?

Look at FFmpeg, it have source code for iff (except ANIM, fill free to improve that ...) and cdxl decoder & demuxer, it is also posible to extend this to encoder & muxers for iff and cdxl ....

That way it will work on any machine which can run ffmpeg...

[Thorham]

Originally Posted by Amiten

anyone know if this technique can be used with Ham8. would be amazing to use resolutions of 1440 * 576 in PAL mode and 16 million colors.

Yes, it can be used with HAM8, and what's better is that it's possible to make HAM8 videos compatible with HAM6 displays. It works by simply using a 16 color base palette for HAM8 and storing the two extra bitplanes of data at the end of a frame so that they can be skipped with a seek function, instead of reading the data to save bandwidth. This works, because when you only use a 16 color base palette, the two extra HAM8 bits only encode for more color depth (normally they can code for more palette colors as well).

However, 1440*576 doesn't seem viable, because of the chipmem bandwidth restrictions, and it's not available to people who use a VGA dongle.

[Striker01]

Check this out:
https://rapidshare.com/files/405792109/320x216-10FPS.7z

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ph1gKs9mHQ (Airpower 2011 / Steiermark-Zeltweg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLSESISZZME (BF1942 und Wild Caribbean Intro)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD1PxMSiyUE (Cars2 10min)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7IYxjNaCd8 (Airpower 2003 / Steiermark-Zeltweg)
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[Striker01]

Ham6 Speed Test - Amiga 600 vs Amiga 1200

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x2HVRhgXlI
(in German)

I have converted now the complete Star Wars Episode IV movie to Ham6.
Here is a short video showing the speed difference between Amiga 600 and Amiga 1200.

For Amigas with 68000 CPU you should use 320x216 10FPS and 11KHz Mono Audio or use Stereo but decrease the video resolution to about 320x200 or less.

For faster Amigas like the Amiga 1200 you can use 320x216 up top 20FPS.

[Boo Boo]

Good videos
What's the file size on that Star Wars?

[Striker01]

Thank you!
The complete movie has 3,8 Gigabytes.
I have splitted the video into two parts.

Part 1: 2 GB
Part 2: 1,8 GB

Cheers,
Reini

[Striker01]

Wings of Fury 2
https://rapidshare.com/files/3285115979/bsp2011.7z
Duration 14:11

[tdm]

Hello guys. I did another build of AVI4HM.EXE, with FreeBasic compiler, because I was unable to run this programme under Windows XP and even under ugly Win98. It's perfectly working now. In case anybody is interested, I will try to find how to upload it. I'm newbie here

[johnim]

hi great

use the paperclip to add files in reply

[tdm]

Well, as mentioned before, I successfully made binary file under WinXP. Original version always crashed when I entered all parameters (and they were OK). So let's try it and let me know if it's better now. I tried also to make a port for Mac OS X, but since there is no VirtualDub alternative, it has no sense..

[johnim]

hi mate just tried on win 7 64 bit and was fine no crashes thanks

[magge]

Thanks, i couldn't run the older version, but this i can so thank you very much!

[emufan]

a new version is on damage_x website, suporting HAM8: http://www.hyakushiki.net/links.htm (updated 2012/07/15)

[Dickie]

Does this version also support sliced ham?

[emufan]

i dont think so, no SHAM.
he added new player and converter for HAM8 and HAM6. there is also a sample of a HAM8 video. SHAM is not mentioned in any of the source/txt files.

does one know, how to check what framerate you get?

[ImmortalA1000]

Please please only record the output of the Amiga directly NOT pointing some camera at a TV screen. This is the only way for people to accurately tell the real FPS and the effectiveness of the animation speed to convince your brain you're watching a movie

[xboxown]

Hello,

I have a trivial but serious issue when it comes to converting movies/tv shows into hv for the classic Amiga. My issue is getting the frame rate to synch with the audio when I do avi4hv. I am unable to get any other show converted for Amiga classic after I have done the first one (ren and stimpy). It is because if there are frame rate like 28.837 avi4hv turn it into 29 or 28. This little difference of 0.837 causes an error in conversion and there is a little obvious unsync between animation and audio. So I am wondering if there is away to resolve this in the windows side when I save the audio as .wav and the video as .avi and I combine them together with avi4hv that they are synched (audio and image) together and it continues with conversion and does not stop at 800 MB with an error.

That is my problem. Anyone who have faced the same problem but resolved it, I would love your help in this regard so I can continue my work.

Thanks in advance.

[Boo Boo]

I'd like to see that episode of Ren and Stimpy :-)
But asking for a donation is a bit cheeky isn't it? If anyone should have a donation shouldn't it be DamageX?

[xboxown]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

I'd like to see that episode of Ren and Stimpy :-)
But asking for a donation is a bit cheeky isn't it? If anyone should have a donation shouldn't it be DamageX?

You are right. Forget the donation part. I am doing it freely for the pleasure of enjoying the movie and tv show on classic Amiga. However, can anyone help me on my problem? Concerning seeing that episode of ren and stimpy all you have to do is send me an ftp link with user name or password so I can upload it for you. It is 800+ MB after all.

[attila06]

Take a look.

http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic...ayback-on-ste/

http://atari.8bitchip.info/movpst.php

very impressive for an STE.

[xboxown]

Originally Posted by attila06

Take a look.

http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic...ayback-on-ste/

http://atari.8bitchip.info/movpst.php

very impressive for an STE.

I agree 100%. But I have made the following conversions to the Amiga:

1) Full working movie called Feast 3 (Normal HAM: Works in all the Amiga models)
2) Full working movie called Epic Movie (HAM8: Works only in AGA Amiga models)
3) Full working episode of Ren and Stimpies total four. (Normal HAM: Works in all Amiga models)

If anybody have an FTP server they don't mind me sending them to them I will be more than happy. They are a bit too big for a normal file sharing website online, for example Feast3 is 6 GB and epic movie is 7 GB. There is an NTFS file reading system in aminet that allows Amiga to READ ONLY NTFS this allows people to have external HD in NTFS and upload all their Amiga movies there and using either SCSI or USB to watch movies in their classic Amiga.

[NovaCoder]

Hiya,

Can you do a guide on how you made the HAM8 movie (tools used etc), I tried and failed miserably

[xboxown]

Originally Posted by NovaCoder

Hiya,

Can you do a guide on how you made the HAM8 movie (tools used etc), I tried and failed miserably

Anything for the person who is converting DosBOX for Amiga AGA GIVING AMIGA 1200/4000 A WHOLE MEANING OF ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM hehehe..

Simple: You use the famous Total Video Converter program to convert the video in rawless avi video, as usual.

When you have done that successfully then you use the other program called VirtualDub, in the filter setting you resize it to 320 X 200, you add the error dithering filter. In the frame rate you convert it to 25 fps and set the audio to match it. Check in Amiga.org under amigaclassicrule posts..there when I mention ren and stimpy you will find in the second page or third (kind remember) the fps rate that match the correct audio khz so that they synch together. I tend to make all my videos 25 fps with the correct audio khz and they synch both audio and video 100% all the time.

In the color depth of VirtualDub set it to 24 Bit RGB (888). Then use avi4hvaga version and then use hamaga to run your movie in aga. THE END RESULT ALL THE VIDEOs in AGA look 100% like normal DVD in 32 bit color in Windows instead of the crap 16 bit RGB that looks still low end quality in Amiga. I am thinking of reconverting feast 3 from normal ocs/ecs to aga only. In fact from here and going on...all my movies when converted is going to be AGA only. I am planning to host my movies for download through Amiga 1200. So if anyone decides to hack my computer they will be disappointed because no virus or adware or spyware will work on A1200.

I will post in amiga.org how to turn my A1200 into a server and how to secure files from deletion...and then people can just download movies from my A1200. I may ask aminet if I can upload 6 GB worth of file in aminet..in this case I would just upload my movies in aminet and you guys can download it. If I cannot contribute in the Amiga in making games as fast enough I can at least do it by releasing movies to be run on Amiga classic.

[NovaCoder]

Cool, thanks for that I'll give it another go

[xboxown]

Originally Posted by NovaCoder

Cool, thanks for that I'll give it another go

If you have any questions or you still cannot do it no matter what. I am willing to do the conversions for you, simply send me your video...I will convert it and send you the hv converted file back.

[Leandro Jardim]

I read in Amiga World magazine of one program to edit and compile ANIM files with sound into executables, and was said there that it gives a big increase in the framerate. Its name was ClariSSA and can be found on Amiga Future website.

With programs like ADPro, ProControl, AnimWorkshop etc... I guess should be possible to create full motion videos with them and ClariSSA, following what that magazine said, but I never tried it.

What it does is compile the frames and sound of the animation into inline code that uses the blitter to draw every pixel of the animation. Like Photon said earlier, this was the biggest bottleneck for making full motion video on Amiga, and ClariSSA was said to overcome it at most animations with sound.

Since tdm started the development of the HV format, and it works well, would be good to him if he continue the project of the development of this file format, and maybe one day turn it into some ClariSSA of the 21th century or even into a file format competitor of AVI/MPG, maybe a "jit video format" executable for Amiga, thinking big.

PS. I am constrained to give this tip while everyone loves HV...

[xboxown]

Originally Posted by Leandro Jardim

I read in Amiga World magazine of one program to edit and compile ANIM files with sound into executables, and was said there that it gives a big increase in the framerate. Its name was ClariSSA and can be found on Amiga Future website.

With programs like ADPro, ProControl, AnimWorkshop etc... I guess should be possible to create full motion videos with them and ClariSSA, following what that magazine said, but I never tried it.

What it does is compile the frames and sound of the animation into inline code that uses the blitter to draw every pixel of the animation. Like Photon said earlier, this was the biggest bottleneck for making full motion video on Amiga, and ClariSSA was said to overcome it at most animations with sound.

Since tdm started the development of the HV format, and it works well, would be good to him if he continue the project of the development of this file format, and maybe one day turn it into some ClariSSA of the 21th century or even into a file format competitor of AVI/MPG, maybe a "jit video format" executable for Amiga, thinking big.

PS. I am constrained to give this tip while everyone loves HV...

Actually, what I really want right now if possible write a GUI program either by amiblitz or whatever programming language and uses HAMAGA or HAMP as the internal engine. Then it comes out in WB window, you can resize the window, go full screen or whatever, and then like VLCPlayer GUI I can play movies, pause movies, rewind movies, forward movies, play movies in workbench screen and the movie screen resize based on the window, or go in full screen. The GUI program also is smart enough to figure out the hv file if it is AGA or not. If it is AGA and ran on a non-AGA classic Amiga it will prompt a message saying this video will only work on AGA Amiga system. In the full screen I can use the mouse to double click anywhere in the movie screen to return back to workbench screen and resize the window as it plays the movie..I click X button on the window to close the movie and so forth. This is what HAMP and HAMAGA is missing. This way...we have a VLC like player for classic Amiga without the need of AN RTG card or anything and can run on a 68030 Amiga and up.

[pandy71]

Originally Posted by xboxown

That is my problem. Anyone who have faced the same problem but resolved it, I would love your help in this regard so I can continue my work.

Best idea is to convert video framerate and audio framerate to some common number. Conversion can be performed with help of AVISynth and plugin MVTools, sound sample rate conversion to for example 28375.16Hz can be performed with for example SOX.
For longer movies anyway correction must be implemented (for example variable audio buffer length and/or variable sampling rate).

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Look Ma! no hands! FMV on STEphane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urgixT_MPCU

btw - perhaps someone can find this useful - picture converter for Amiga formats (not dynamics IMHO)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrt7gvzo1ik
http://www.ilnx.cz/index.php/download-lnxspectrum/

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Originally Posted by tdm

Well, as mentioned before, I successfully made binary file under WinXP. Original version always crashed when I entered all parameters (and they were OK). So let's try it and let me know if it's better now. I tried also to make a port for Mac OS X, but since there is no VirtualDub alternative, it has no sense..

Look at ppmtoilbm (part of netpbm package) - can be probably easily changed to something like avi4hv - perhaps even better (with reasonable dither - not FS which is not very suitable for HAM).