Old KGLoad Discussion - Page 9

Eclipse · 01 October 2009, 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Thank you seuden for your wonderful support, it really spurs turns me on.

I think that's more appropriate.

Kyon · 01 October 2009, 07:45

go kg go kg

ppill · 01 October 2009, 08:27

Can you change the screenmode and fonts? And how about the layout (size and positions of windows)?

The way it handles colours now seems like a nice feature. Looking forward to trying it out

killergorilla · 01 October 2009, 10:47

Screenmodes, nope. The AGA version (which is the version we're completing now) is fixed at 640x256x8.

Once it's finished I'll make the necessary changes to get the OCS version finished which will still be 640x256 but will only have 16 colours.

Size, positions of windows, yes, all editable.

Font, yes, but I'd recommend you only use fix widthed fonts, as you might end up with text spilling over the end of the gameslist/menus etc.

By default kgload will come with 2 skins, one which displays screenshots and boxart, and one which simply shows the gamelist and the info for each game.

Any more questions, fire away

ppill · 02 October 2009, 08:29

That's sounds good

How about coloured bitmap fonts (the ones used in Scala, etc.)? A little shadow or depth on a font can improve the look dramatically.

And why a fixed screenmode?

killergorilla · 02 October 2009, 11:20

KGLoad isn't supposed to be an all-singing, all-dancing affair.

It's mainly meant to act as a workbench replacement, as it's very resource friendly and can load whdload without having anything running in the background (and therefore saving precious RAM).

I'll be using it on my A1200 to turn it into an arcade machine essentially, turn it on, instant selection of games.

Granted it can be loaded from Workbench, and will work absolutely fine, but if you want high res screenmodes and shaded fonts then go for iGame. I am not trying to replace iGame, it's a great solution in it's own right, just for a different purpose really.

Plus, both of the skins which come with KGLoad are 640x256. I do not want people changing the screen mode, realising the skins now look shit and then complaining that it doesn't work properly. I do not want to have to make a skin for every single screenmode that someone may choose.

It's enough effort programming the frontend itself

I may consider allowing different screenmodes if people want to create their own custom skins but there is so much to do before then I doubt I'll ever get around to that.

seuden · 02 October 2009, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

I'll be using it on my A1200 to turn it into an arcade machine essentially, turn it on, instant selection of games.

That turns me on, well worth the wait.

Eclipse · 02 October 2009, 16:49

Looking good dude, keep up the good work.
This is exactly what I'm looking for. (Apart from a big boobed blonde).

Lakes · 10 October 2009, 00:37

This seems to be what I`m looking for as well, as I`m trying to get Pinball Fantasies to work on my A600 with 2Mb chip ram and failing at the moment.

Konrad · 03 January 2010, 15:29

Hmmm. I Can't seem to find a download for this

. Can someone point me to a valid link, or upload it to the zone, please ?

Hercules · 12 January 2010, 00:32

How's KGLOAD progressing? I eager to download this too... Would you be kind enough to provide us all with a download link please? Thanks!

alkis21 · 28 May 2010, 10:55

I can't believe I missed this. I'm really looking forward to it. A couple of questions:

-Will one be able to add some non-WHDLoad games manually?

-Have you thought of implementing some kind of Tooltype edit feature? It would be very useful if -as you said- someone used it without Workbench.

TCD · 28 May 2010, 10:57

Both features are 'on the list'

killergorilla · 28 May 2010, 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by alkis21

I can't believe I missed this. I'm really looking forward to it. A couple of questions:

-Will one be able to add some non-WHDLoad games manually?

-Have you thought of implementing some kind of Tooltype edit feature? It would be very useful if -as you said- someone used it without Workbench.

Hi mate.

Both features are indeed on the list of things to do.

I am very close to releasing the second beta, so once it's out I will start knocking things off the list.

I CAN SEE THE LIGHT!

TCD · 28 May 2010, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

I CAN SEE THE LIGHT!

alkis21 · 28 May 2010, 11:25

Is this infamous list somewhere where I can take a look at it?

killergorilla · 28 May 2010, 11:30

I'll whack it online once the beta is out.

Maybe even have people vote for which feature to add next! woo!

alkis21 · 30 May 2010, 12:40

I have a request for a feature that will be very useful to me (and hopefully to others). I asked for it in the WHDload section, I'm asking you as well to double my chances of seeing it implemented.

I have a SUBWAY USB controller. Many WHDLoad games don't agree with it and will not run unless I disable it. So for each one of those games I create custom executable files that have the following commands:

Quote:

hd:c/addusbhardware REMOVE ALL
wait 2 secs
WHDLoad Gobliiins.slave Preload

I'm not asking you to implement a 'Disable USB' feature, but something much more generic: The option to run a few DOS commands before executing a game. It would save my life for the above problem and perhaps it will have many other uses I cannot imagine at the moment.

Will you consider it?

If that's too hard or not possible, I'd welcome this alternative: the ability to edit each title and choose a different executable (instead of the WHDLOad .info file). iGame is awesome but unfortunately it doesn't have that option, my only choice is to reenter every single game as a non-WHDLoad title.

killergorilla · 01 June 2010, 09:48

That's a great idea.

And very easy to implement, so consider it done.

If I allow a global script that will be run before every game, and then also allow per-game scripts that are run before that game is loaded, would that be enough?

There is already http://whdload.de/docs/en/opt.html#ExecuteStartup if you didn't know

But it's still a feature I have no problem adding.

ppill · 01 June 2010, 10:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

There is already http://whdload.de/docs/en/opt.html#ExecuteStartup if you didn't know

But it's still a feature I have no problem adding.

I was going to suggest just that. Add it to the global WHDLoad settings (s:WHDLoad.prefs) and you're good to go.

Together with the ExecuteCleanup you can get the USB working again when you quit WHDLoad.

alkis21 · 01 June 2010, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

And very easy to implement, so consider it done.

Quote:

If I allow a global script that will be run before every game, and then also allow per-game scripts that are run before that game is loaded, would that be enough?

That would be perfect. The per-game scripts is what I need. ExecuteStartup won't do because I have too many games in my USB drive and therefore I don't want Trident to be disabled every time WHDLoad is run.

killergorilla · 01 June 2010, 13:54

Sure thing.

Would you want a script to run after the game as well? (If KGload is set to reload after you exit the game).

alkis21 · 01 June 2010, 14:00

If it's easy to implement, it wouldn't hurt!

I was wondering if you ever used iGame. It has many great features so you might get some ideas. I specifically like the way you can edit every game's name and Tooltypes, as well as the filter (you type a few letters of the game you are searching and it comes up).

killergorilla · 01 June 2010, 14:08

I've never used iGame no.

Only because I wanted a menu on my A1200 that I could boot straight into and use with a joystick without the need to load Workbench.

So I'm basically making it for myself, and however else wants to use it

I'm willing to add any features anyone wants, as long as it's not going to change the requirements too much (I don't want to add many external dependencies like MUI or the like).

But I need the beta out before I can start asking for more features

alkis21 · 22 June 2010, 07:32

Any new developments, dear Toki?

killergorilla · 13 July 2010, 22:56

Just a quick update.

Nothing exciting I'm afraid.

Progress has been very slow of late, mainly because I've had one almighty bug I've been trying to fix for a good while now. But the good news is I've just found the fucker and fixed it.

I am doing my best so please be patient, I know it's been in progress for 2000 years so I can only apologise for that!

Progress has also been a bit slow recently due to a couple of non-programming-related reasons.

1) The World Cup has been on.
2) The weather has been spectacular.

But we'll keep quiet about those

seuden · 13 July 2010, 23:32

At least this will be done before the CM2 slave :P

Congrats on finding the bug KG, you friggin rule!! You hear that THB, KG friggin rules!!! :P

Konrad · 14 July 2010, 00:11

I am disgusted by your incompetence !!! You dare let me wait for a new version ?!

(Take your time. I'm sure it will turn out great in the end. Thanks for the update

)

NovaCoder · 26 July 2010, 08:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Just a quick update.

Nothing exciting I'm afraid.

Progress has been very slow of late, mainly because I've had one almighty bug I've been trying to fix for a good while now. But the good news is I've just found the fucker and fixed it.

As one 'Amiga' coder to-another.....I feel your pain

Retro-Nerd · 05 September 2010, 13:28

Looks like another Duke!!

Konrad · 21 September 2010, 15:19

Seems so

. Could you give us an update KG

?

killergorilla · 08 November 2010, 12:09

Read here:

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=704900&postcount=11

Bloodwych · 10 November 2010, 13:14

I get like that sometimes too KG. Shame we may never see KGLoad anytime soon, but this is a hobby project.

It fall under the "when I can be arsed" category, like my ClassicWB packs!

Konrad · 10 November 2010, 14:30

@Gorilla
Understandable. Thanks for the honest update on this.

Jimbo · 10 November 2010, 20:14

SHOCKING

shame on you, shame on you

hehe joking. Its always good to have a break if you feel meh about a certain thing.

I feel meh about my missus sometimes

30 December 2010, 17:00

Hi

How i can get screenshot of game in Kgload.
I get some in igame but nothing in Kgload.

Thanks

My english is poor

Akira · 20 January 2011, 16:00

Call me a n00b, but where does one download KGLoad? I can't seem to find a download link in this thread.

TCD · 20 January 2011, 16:08

Next sticky would have been the answer...
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=201

01 October 2009, 08:27	#323
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 32 Posts: 1,125	Can you change the screenmode and fonts? And how about the layout (size and positions of windows)? The way it handles colours now seems like a nice feature. Looking forward to trying it out __________________ ADF transfers proving a hassle? Check out Hombre. ComFy (ADF/PCMCIA transfer package).

01 October 2009, 10:47	#324
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	Screenmodes, nope. The AGA version (which is the version we're completing now) is fixed at 640x256x8. Once it's finished I'll make the necessary changes to get the OCS version finished which will still be 640x256 but will only have 16 colours. Size, positions of windows, yes, all editable. Font, yes, but I'd recommend you only use fix widthed fonts, as you might end up with text spilling over the end of the gameslist/menus etc. By default kgload will come with 2 skins, one which displays screenshots and boxart, and one which simply shows the gamelist and the info for each game. Any more questions, fire away __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

02 October 2009, 08:29	#325
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 32 Posts: 1,125	That's sounds good How about coloured bitmap fonts (the ones used in Scala, etc.)? A little shadow or depth on a font can improve the look dramatically. And why a fixed screenmode? __________________ ADF transfers proving a hassle? Check out Hombre. ComFy (ADF/PCMCIA transfer package).

02 October 2009, 11:20	#326
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	KGLoad isn't supposed to be an all-singing, all-dancing affair. It's mainly meant to act as a workbench replacement, as it's very resource friendly and can load whdload without having anything running in the background (and therefore saving precious RAM). I'll be using it on my A1200 to turn it into an arcade machine essentially, turn it on, instant selection of games. Granted it can be loaded from Workbench, and will work absolutely fine, but if you want high res screenmodes and shaded fonts then go for iGame. I am not trying to replace iGame, it's a great solution in it's own right, just for a different purpose really. Plus, both of the skins which come with KGLoad are 640x256. I do not want people changing the screen mode, realising the skins now look shit and then complaining that it doesn't work properly. I do not want to have to make a skin for every single screenmode that someone may choose. It's enough effort programming the frontend itself I may consider allowing different screenmodes if people want to create their own custom skins but there is so much to do before then I doubt I'll ever get around to that. __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

12 January 2010, 00:32	#331
Hercules Beer monster Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK Posts: 113	How's KGLOAD progressing? I eager to download this too... Would you be kind enough to provide us all with a download link please? Thanks! __________________ Regards, Hercules http://www.craigsretrocomputingpage.eu5.org http://www.amigadisks.co.cc http://www.amigagames.freeoda.com http://www.youtube.com/amigajunkie

01 October 2009, 07:45	#322
Kyon Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SOS Brigade Age: 22 Posts: 696	go kg go kg

02 October 2009, 16:49	#328
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 739	Looking good dude, keep up the good work. This is exactly what I'm looking for. (Apart from a big boobed blonde).

10 October 2009, 00:37	#329
Lakes Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cumbria, England Posts: 32	This seems to be what I`m looking for as well, as I`m trying to get Pinball Fantasies to work on my A600 with 2Mb chip ram and failing at the moment.

03 January 2010, 15:29	#330
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 32 Posts: 541	Hmmm. I Can't seem to find a download for this . Can someone point me to a valid link, or upload it to the zone, please ?

28 May 2010, 10:55	#332
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 38 Posts: 1,116	I can't believe I missed this. I'm really looking forward to it. A couple of questions: -Will one be able to add some non-WHDLoad games manually? -Have you thought of implementing some kind of Tooltype edit feature? It would be very useful if -as you said- someone used it without Workbench. __________________ Do you like classic adventure games? Check out Diamonds in the Rough!

28 May 2010, 10:57	#333
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,480	Both features are 'on the list' __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

28 May 2010, 11:25	#336
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 38 Posts: 1,116	Is this infamous list somewhere where I can take a look at it? __________________ Do you like classic adventure games? Check out Diamonds in the Rough!

28 May 2010, 11:30	#337
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	I'll whack it online once the beta is out. Maybe even have people vote for which feature to add next! woo! __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

01 June 2010, 09:48	#339
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	That's a great idea. And very easy to implement, so consider it done. If I allow a global script that will be run before every game, and then also allow per-game scripts that are run before that game is loaded, would that be enough? There is already http://whdload.de/docs/en/opt.html#ExecuteStartup if you didn't know But it's still a feature I have no problem adding. __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

01 June 2010, 13:54	#342
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	Sure thing. Would you want a script to run after the game as well? (If KGload is set to reload after you exit the game). __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

01 June 2010, 14:00	#343
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 38 Posts: 1,116	If it's easy to implement, it wouldn't hurt! I was wondering if you ever used iGame. It has many great features so you might get some ideas. I specifically like the way you can edit every game's name and Tooltypes, as well as the filter (you type a few letters of the game you are searching and it comes up). __________________ Do you like classic adventure games? Check out Diamonds in the Rough!

01 June 2010, 14:08	#344
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	I've never used iGame no. Only because I wanted a menu on my A1200 that I could boot straight into and use with a joystick without the need to load Workbench. So I'm basically making it for myself, and however else wants to use it I'm willing to add any features anyone wants, as long as it's not going to change the requirements too much (I don't want to add many external dependencies like MUI or the like). But I need the beta out before I can start asking for more features __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

22 June 2010, 07:32	#345
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 38 Posts: 1,116	Any new developments, dear Toki? __________________ Do you like classic adventure games? Check out Diamonds in the Rough!

13 July 2010, 22:56	#346
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	Just a quick update. Nothing exciting I'm afraid. Progress has been very slow of late, mainly because I've had one almighty bug I've been trying to fix for a good while now. But the good news is I've just found the fucker and fixed it. I am doing my best so please be patient, I know it's been in progress for 2000 years so I can only apologise for that! Progress has also been a bit slow recently due to a couple of non-programming-related reasons. 1) The World Cup has been on. 2) The weather has been spectacular. But we'll keep quiet about those __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

14 July 2010, 00:11	#348
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 32 Posts: 541	I am disgusted by your incompetence !!! You dare let me wait for a new version ?! (Take your time. I'm sure it will turn out great in the end. Thanks for the update )

05 September 2010, 13:28	#350
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	Looks like another Duke!!

21 September 2010, 15:19	#351
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 32 Posts: 541	Seems so . Could you give us an update KG ?

08 November 2010, 12:09	#352
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	Read here: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=704900&postcount=11 __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

10 November 2010, 13:14	#353
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,699	I get like that sometimes too KG. Shame we may never see KGLoad anytime soon, but this is a hobby project. It fall under the "when I can be arsed" category, like my ClassicWB packs! __________________ Live Long and Procrastinate A500 Batman Pack Classic Workbench

10 November 2010, 14:30	#354
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 32 Posts: 541	@Gorilla Understandable. Thanks for the honest update on this.

10 November 2010, 20:14	#355
Jimbo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colchester Essex Age: 33 Posts: 822	SHOCKING shame on you, shame on you hehe joking. Its always good to have a break if you feel meh about a certain thing. I feel meh about my missus sometimes __________________ A1200D 3.1 roms, Blizzard MkIV 1230/@50mhz 64 meg FPU@40mhz. PSU @140w. Internal cdrom. 60gig HD. OS 3.9/3.1. Connected to the interweb. External Scan Magic with 22inch Widescreen LCD monitor. PSX/PS2/Snes/GameCube/Xbox/Xbox 360/C64C

30 December 2010, 17:00	#356
sbalintegro Posts: n/a	Hi How i can get screenshot of game in Kgload. I get some in igame but nothing in Kgload. Thanks My english is poor

20 January 2011, 16:00	#357
Akira Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: # Posts: 12,584	Call me a n00b, but where does one download KGLoad? I can't seem to find a download link in this thread.

20 January 2011, 16:08	#358
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,480	Next sticky would have been the answer... http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=201 __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

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