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I have a SCSI controleur for A600 A1200.
the SNASM created by Cross products in 1993. The serial is 0043 so it must be a bit rare and as usual I haven't the drivers. ![]() Is anybody could help me to find them ? |
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It is not a scsi controller... it is an sw downloader module for a600/a1200s without expansion bus.
It was being used for the SnAsm development system and hence you won't find any drivers for it, unless from a licensed developer with the same type of downloader. You might try contacting Cross Products, or if you really work at Team 17, search your archives for the correct package - it is unlikely to be out on the net, being completely unusable without the downloader cartridge. |
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Team 17
Didn't use any kind of development system, they coded directly on the intended machine.
SNASM was extensively used by Arc Developments, Tiertex, and lots of other British developers who did Atari ST and Amiga conversions. More than likely now, most developers have junked their old SNASM systems, I don't hold out much hope for you. |
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Someone finding a snasm downloader in the junkyard of team 17 is a good sign of the company using snasm, which makes sense for rapid development -> less work hours -> less development cost.
It has nothing to do with developing ST titles or not, most 16 bit games however shared common codebase, minus sound ang gfx, so it made sense especially for companies doing other platforms as well. It is no different to programming directly on the machine, just much more efficient if you can afford it... Snasm is a cross compiler (assembly that time) running on a pc having complete control over the amiga cpu including step by step running through hardware cpu halt. I used to have one (with a500+ specific downloader) while in England so I now for sure ![]() |
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I didn t find it at team17 but in a bundle from Ebay germany... probably from a coder.
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Damn, I wish I could find someone throwing away an a1200 downloader module... Aaaargh.
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Told you..... at some point you may want to ask how I know about Team 17
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So? Let me guess: you sneaked into their office and stole their latest betas...? Or better some unhappy underpaid miserable guy leaked all their latest developments to you
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Well if you are like me and you don't know what is it
![]() It s easy to drop off a simple scsi controleur without drivers ![]() Galahad, you seems to know very well team17 ![]() |
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The only thing it is good for is programming hw hitting games, so if you are into graphics or sound it is not much of use.
... And of course you do need the pc software compiler/downloader/debugger that controls it. Later Cross Products split up, one team doing a system called Psy-Q or something similar, anyone used it? I have only seen it at ects when it was presented in a very small booth, probably at a very wrong time, when many miggy developers started to look into console development... |
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Nope
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hehe witch one if it s not to ask too much
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Possibly
not a hugely good idea for me to continue this conversation to be honest.... I WAS a cracker for Fairlight, and I may/may not have done a couple of Team 17 games. Sure they'd be glad to hear that
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Lol
nobody will put you in jail ![]() And to be honest, in a world without piracy, bill gate would not be the richest man of the world and video games market would not make more money than movie industry. There are rich now because you ![]() |
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Not so sure Martyn, Rico, Andreas, Mr. Bagguely et all, would agree with you!
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C'mon, spill the beans Galahad.. Did you do the asteroids type game?
I think I have a snasm Amiga dev-kit hidden away somewhere, and some disks for it. |
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crumbs that was 6 years ago, Have you changed your mind Galahad ? and now ready to tell all hehehehe
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cool thanks for the info Galahad
sad too say about the time of Speris Legacy I wasn`t doing much computer stuff, never mind amiga stuff |
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