Classic cracktro, but where is the tune from?

Leffmann · 08 September 2009, 23:19

Everyone has probably seen and heard this classic:

http://flashtro.com/page.php?id=26

But where is the tune from? I've heard both Riku Kangas AKA Flotsam and more often Felix Schmidt being credited as the original composer, but someone suggested the tune is really from some old arcade game. Does anyone know for sure where it's originally from and who composed it?

Galahad/FLT · 08 September 2009, 23:26

Its an original tune by Felix Schmidt

hitchhikr · 09 September 2009, 03:15

That reminds me how much i hate those flash remakes, the tune even loops before the end ! I think it's an original one from Schmidt too, i converted it and the replay and used it for an intro 2 years ago.

Leffmann · 09 September 2009, 11:42

You're right, Felix did compose the original. He calls himself Enzo Cage these days and on www.enzocage.de you can read about this and other old Amiga tunes. Thanks.

It's a good example of how the music can make something plain, or at least something that isn't ground breaking, to look great. Enigma is a good example too. It has lived on the amazing song by Tip and Firefox.

StingRay · 09 September 2009, 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leffmann

Enigma is a good example too. It has lived on the amazing song by Tip and Firefox.

I have to disagree, sure, the soundtrack by Tip&Firefox is great but back when Enigma was released it also had some nice effects (T.V. cube, vector world etc.) thus I wouldn't call it a "plain" demo, not at all.

pmc · 09 September 2009, 12:12

@ Leffman - gotta agree with Sting on this one I'm afraid my friend.

The music's great in Enigma but, in my opinion, no demo stands on just the music or just the graphics or just the code. The three have to combine to produce something with that little extra 'magic' that makes a demo stand out and get remembered.

The code in Enigma is cool - the TV cube was a real jaw dropper when I first saw it, I also love the hidden points ball and the Star Wars scroller too. And as for graphics - you gotta love the raytraced fractal. \o/

Leffmann · 09 September 2009, 13:29

What I meant was that Enigma was not plain, like the Paranoimia intro was, but it wasn't ground breaking either.

It made a big impression on me the first time I saw it, but I think there were more impressive demos around at the same time. I feel that the music in Enigma was what gave the overall composition its impact, and not the effects even if they're by all means good.

musashi9 · 09 September 2009, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitchhikr

That reminds me how much i hate those flash remakes, the tune even loops before the end ! I think it's an original one from Schmidt too, i converted it and the replay and used it for an intro 2 years ago.

"HATE" is such a strong word. This is the second time I have seen you post on forums saying such things about my site. Why do you "HATE" something that doesn't harm anyone and doesn't claim to be perfect and is 100% free for people to enjoy.

Flashtro is just for fun, it is nothing serious. I made the site because I love cracktros and so do many other people.
It is not very nice to read such strong words like HATE, especially when your opinion on the flashtros wasn't asked for. It is just something you have to say whenever someone mentions my site.

SIGH! I don't know what I or my site did to make you have such HATRED towards it.

It is just a bit of fun. Fun things shouldn't cause hate, should they?

Galahad/FLT · 09 September 2009, 18:47

I'll have to pipe up here and say I like the Flashtro stuff (not so keen on some of the cracking 'tutorials'), but the cracktros look great.

Crikey, even two of mine are on there... that must have been tricky to convert!

One thing I hate about Youtube is if you'd never heard on an Amiga before, you'd think everything was a jerky mess, at least the Flashtro stuff is as it was on a real Amiga.

pmc · 09 September 2009, 20:05

Well, I for one love cracktros and demos.

@ Galahad - out of interest, which ones are yours? It's nice to know whose work I'm admiring.

Asle · 09 September 2009, 20:12

To the topic, this song used by Paranoimia was first released by Felix Schmidt in "The Suntronic disc 5" production. This song, amongst 33 others on the disk, was labeled as "Suntronic - Years old - 1988".
There's no exact mention of the author, but other songs are labeled as having been composed by someone else, originally. I guess that makes it a composition by Mr. Schmidt himself. It can probably be cleared up by asking him

Sylvain

Galahad/FLT · 09 September 2009, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmc

Well, I for one love cracktros and demos.

@ Galahad - out of interest, which ones are yours? It's nice to know whose work I'm admiring.

Worms, Alien Breed 3D and Turbo Trax

First two are complete crap, but were done for specific reasons, and Turbo Trax was just something knocked up that was different, and again, another Fairlight logo that had to be used.

Evore · 08 October 2009, 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by musashi9

"HATE" is such a strong word. This is the second time I have seen you post on forums saying such things about my site. Why do you "HATE" something that doesn't harm anyone and doesn't claim to be perfect and is 100% free for people to enjoy.

Flashtro is just for fun, it is nothing serious. I made the site because I love cracktros and so do many other people.
It is not very nice to read such strong words like HATE, especially when your opinion on the flashtros wasn't asked for. It is just something you have to say whenever someone mentions my site.

SIGH! I don't know what I or my site did to make you have such HATRED towards it.

It is just a bit of fun. Fun things shouldn't cause hate, should they?

Keep up the good work! I have enjoyed visiting your site for years!

Peter · 08 October 2009, 00:48

The music is excellent on the Turbo Trax Flashtro - is there somewhere I could download that track?

StingRay · 08 October 2009, 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter

The music is excellent on the Turbo Trax Flashtro - is there somewhere I could download that track?

Attached, have fun.

Peter · 08 October 2009, 11:21

Thanks StingRay !

Mungo · 09 October 2009, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evore

Keep up the good work!

Seconded. It's great that someone likes the old intros enough to keep the flame alight.

Anyone who has one of their productions remade in this way should treat it as a huge compliment.

08 September 2009, 23:19	#1
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	Classic cracktro, but where is the tune from? Everyone has probably seen and heard this classic: http://flashtro.com/page.php?id=26 But where is the tune from? I've heard both Riku Kangas AKA Flotsam and more often Felix Schmidt being credited as the original composer, but someone suggested the tune is really from some old arcade game. Does anyone know for sure where it's originally from and who composed it?

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08 September 2009, 23:26	#2
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,014	Its an original tune by Felix Schmidt

09 September 2009, 03:15	#3
hitchhikr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: somewhere else Posts: 521	That reminds me how much i hate those flash remakes, the tune even loops before the end ! I think it's an original one from Schmidt too, i converted it and the replay and used it for an intro 2 years ago.

09 September 2009, 11:42	#4
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	You're right, Felix did compose the original. He calls himself Enzo Cage these days and on www.enzocage.de you can read about this and other old Amiga tunes. Thanks. It's a good example of how the music can make something plain, or at least something that isn't ground breaking, to look great. Enigma is a good example too. It has lived on the amazing song by Tip and Firefox.

09 September 2009, 12:12	#6
pmc gone Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: completely gone Posts: 1,596	@ Leffman - gotta agree with Sting on this one I'm afraid my friend. The music's great in Enigma but, in my opinion, no demo stands on just the music or just the graphics or just the code. The three have to combine to produce something with that little extra 'magic' that makes a demo stand out and get remembered. The code in Enigma is cool - the TV cube was a real jaw dropper when I first saw it, I also love the hidden points ball and the Star Wars scroller too. And as for graphics - you gotta love the raytraced fractal. \o/

09 September 2009, 13:29	#7
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	What I meant was that Enigma was not plain, like the Paranoimia intro was, but it wasn't ground breaking either. It made a big impression on me the first time I saw it, but I think there were more impressive demos around at the same time. I feel that the music in Enigma was what gave the overall composition its impact, and not the effects even if they're by all means good.

09 September 2009, 18:47	#9
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,014	I'll have to pipe up here and say I like the Flashtro stuff (not so keen on some of the cracking 'tutorials'), but the cracktros look great. Crikey, even two of mine are on there... that must have been tricky to convert! One thing I hate about Youtube is if you'd never heard on an Amiga before, you'd think everything was a jerky mess, at least the Flashtro stuff is as it was on a real Amiga.

09 September 2009, 20:05	#10
pmc gone Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: completely gone Posts: 1,596	Well, I for one love cracktros and demos. @ Galahad - out of interest, which ones are yours? It's nice to know whose work I'm admiring.

09 September 2009, 20:12	#11
Asle Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Paris/France Age: 52 Posts: 527	To the topic, this song used by Paranoimia was first released by Felix Schmidt in "The Suntronic disc 5" production. This song, amongst 33 others on the disk, was labeled as "Suntronic - Years old - 1988". There's no exact mention of the author, but other songs are labeled as having been composed by someone else, originally. I guess that makes it a composition by Mr. Schmidt himself. It can probably be cleared up by asking him Sylvain

08 October 2009, 00:48	#14
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	The music is excellent on the Turbo Trax Flashtro - is there somewhere I could download that track?

08 October 2009, 11:21	#16
Peter Still an Amiga user Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Age: 55 Posts: 2,715	Thanks StingRay !

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