18 August 2009, 23:15 | #1 |
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Blizkick question
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Has anyone ever tried using the blizkick modules with a Microbotics M1230XA board? |
19 August 2009, 07:16 | #2 |
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from the Bliz-readme:
"Requires: OS 1.2+, phase5/DCE turbo with MAPROM feature or CPU Card ... BlizKick has been tested with BLIZZARD 1230-I, 1230-II, 1230-III, 1230-IV, 1240-T/ERC, 1260, 2040-ERC, 2060, Cyberstorm MK I, Cyberstorm MK II, Cyberstorm MK III, CyberStorm PPC, Blizzard PPC and A3640 boards." So AFAIK it only works with Blizzard cards. I have personally tested it with 1230-IV, 1240-T/ERC, 1260 and Blizzard PPC. |
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19 August 2009, 08:34 | #4 |
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Hiya speedyIDE is not really part of BlizKick, it's just a module that you can use. You can use SpeedyIDE on it's own, someone even included it in an update to scsi.device on this board.
There are also other utils that will allow you to move your OS from ROM to your FASTRAM which will help boost your performance. |
19 August 2009, 08:41 | #5 | |
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Is speedyide easy to install on its own? I couldn't find it on Aminet, only the blizkick archive. ***EDIT*** I downloaded Blizkick and extracted speedyIDE and tossed it into C: When I typed SpeedyIDE from a command line and nothing barfed. Noticed a SMALL increase in writefile speed over my already speedy IDEFIX/Express combo. Can I just toss SpeedyIDE into C: and call it from Startup Sequence or do I need to run it in any special way? For an OS 3.1 guy like me, any other of those modules useful? Last edited by illy5603; 19 August 2009 at 09:05. |
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19 August 2009, 19:15 | #6 |
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Blizkick doesn't work with the 1230XA.
I also have an 1230xa and idefix-express, and I use Doobrey's scsi.device 44.2. It includes the speedy-ide patch.. I get 4.1 MB/s with my 2GB Sandisk CF card. thanks Doobrey Been waiting for someone to patch scsi.device with speedy-ide. Edit see this thread to download scsi.device 44.2: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ht=scsi.device (post #13) Edit2: You can't use speedy-ide on it's own. Either use a tool like blizkick or remapollo, or Doobrey's scsi.device. Or if you use a normal harddisk or a CF card which is fixed instead of removeable use idefix. Last edited by Mozzerfan; 19 August 2009 at 19:50. |
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Sorry to say it, but if there is any speedup it wasn't caused by SpeedyIDE. When run directly, it won't do anything, just return back to the CLI (All Blizkick modules start with moveq #0,d0 : rts) |
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19 August 2009, 20:50 | #8 | |
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Ive been hunting round for ages, nothing seems to work. |
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20 August 2009, 01:34 | #9 | |
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Ok I downloaded the file and now have scsi_44.2_a1200.pch sitting on my DH1: work area. So where does this go? Does it require more software to run? The problem I am having is that people are describing all of these things that in and of themselves don't work without another application that sometimes requires ANOTHER application to kick stuff up to another application. All I have is an Amiga 1200 with ClassicWB (3.1 OS W/3.1 Roms on board) on a CF card and that is it. No boing bags, no 3.9 patched boot ROMS, no other applications outside of my BBS software. What do I need to do to make this work? |
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20 August 2009, 02:59 | #10 | |
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scsi.device resides in your ROM. I think you have 2 options. 1) Extract your scsi.device from your ROM and then apply the patch 'scsi_44.2_a1200.pch' to it, this will create a version 44.2 scsi.device. Then you need another application (a BlizKick equivalent, sorry don't know what they are called) to push this updated scsi.device to FASTRAM. 2) You could use SETPATCH to patch your ROM version of scsi.device using the 'scsi_44.2_a1200.pch' which means it will also reside in FASTRAM. |
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20 August 2009, 04:03 | #11 | |
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Use Doobrey's Remus/Romsplit tool to split the Boingbag2 romupdate. Download Spatch from aminet and apply Doobrey's patch to scsi.device file which was created by ROMsplit. Download loadmodule from aminet, and use it to load the updated scsi.device. If you ever update your system to a full os3.9 system, don't forget to change the setpatch command to: Setpatch SKIPROMUPDATES "scsi.device" QUIET. |
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20 August 2009, 05:43 | #12 | |
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Spatch, seriously, I have no f'ing clue how to use this... All I get is "Argument missing" and when I managed to pull the "help" file from the command line the arguments make no sense. Also, Remus doesn't run, says "missing file wbstart.library" whatever that is. Probably some other application that I have no idea what it is. I haven't even gotten to loadmodule yet but I am sure it is more command line stuff that I will have no idea how to use. *EDIT* This actually looks easy and has decent documentations, lets get to this part!!! :-) *EDIT* For what it is worth I actually own the 3.9 OS on CD, I just don't have a CD-ROM drive. Is there anyway I can get the "finished" and doobrey patched scsi.device for an Amiga 1200, so I could just go to the load module step? And thanks for trying to help! I do appreciate it! Last edited by illy5603; 20 August 2009 at 05:49. Reason: info |
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20 August 2009, 05:53 | #13 | |
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For option 2, here is a great question. HOW do you use setpatch? Can someone throw me an example? Thanks! |
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20 August 2009, 07:29 | #15 | |
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44.57 AmigaOS ROM Update from OS3.9 BB2 All I have in the BoingBag3.9-2 drawer is "AmigaOS-Update" unless I am missing something. From the looks of that documentation, it won't work just patching the 40.12 scsi.device I did manage to extra, right? Do I really have to go through all of this? Last edited by illy5603; 20 August 2009 at 07:57. |
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BlizKick contains some excellent info and utils even if you can't actually use it with your card.
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20 August 2009, 14:30 | #18 |
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Like I said, you need scsi.device from os3.9 BB2.
"AmigaOS-Update" from BB2 is a password protected archive. To unpack it, look here for instructions: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=405346. If the passwords to unpack it don't work, see post #10 to unpack it. When you successfully unpacked it, there is a new AmigaOs Romupdate file, and you can use ROMSplit to extract scsi.device. Edit: Instead of spatch you can also do this: Quote from Doobrey's post If anyone is scared of using spatch on a CLI, just plonk the .pch files in Remus/Patches and extract the scsi.device with ROMsplit, it'll save the original, then apply the patches automagically. Last edited by Mozzerfan; 20 August 2009 at 14:37. |
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I am just going to forget about it. If I had known that updating the scsi.device on the 1200 took 5 different applications each with their own lengthy forum posts dedicated to getting each of them working, I would have never bothered with it. I was thinking more like "Oh here is the file, and here is the program to kick it up into ram and for kicks, here is the short command line you need to add to startup-sequence." I know this is at the end of the rainbow somewhere. I paid full price for an OS3.9 CD that I have never even installed so my conscience is clear when I do get it running. Thanks again for trying, I just can't get it going. |
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20 August 2009, 23:25 | #20 |
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didnt made it myself but, it cant be that difficult
where exactly are you stuck? did you installed BB2 already? the readme of http://aminet.net/package/driver/media/SCSI4345p explains it really well - just use the tools it mentions. remus/romsplit you dont need. http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/LoadModule (which has ExtractModule and LoadModule) http://aminet.net/package/dev/misc/spatch if you have BB2 installed, you only need to do what the scsi-patch.readme says. copy the tools into c: folder an follow the steps in the scsi-patch.readme. maybe open it in a text-editor and copy/paste the lines into the shell you are working in. |
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