New floppies for TOSEC (probably)

Supamax · 27 March 2009, 22:02

Hi fellows,

I uploaded to The Zone my dump of F-16 Combat Pilot.

It's obtained from my real floppy. You can compare it with this one from TOSEC: F-16 Combat Pilot (1989)(Digital Integration).zip (it's the only one very similar to my dump).

I'm 100% sure of my dumps' quality, but, when compared, the two images have differences.

I wonder if my version is a slightly different one, or if it is ruined somehow. This would be very strange, since I have no physical errors on the real floppy. And I never overwrote it (saves, records, etc.).

Supamax · 27 March 2009, 22:12

Hi again,

I also uploaded my dump of Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show - disk1.
There are only 32 bytes different from my dump and the one from TOSEC (Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show (1989)(MicroValue)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PNA].zip).
Among other differences, in my dump you can read (with a hex editor) "THE LEADERS" instead of "PARANOIMIA", and "ROBOCOP BBS SPREAD!" instead of "PARANOIMIA PRESENTS".
I suppose this is an italian BBS hack, so this could be effectively included in TOSEC as a different "version"

.

TheCyberDruid · 27 March 2009, 22:16

Most likely this gets a '[h Leaders]' tag then

Supamax · 27 March 2009, 22:52

Another one in the Zone:

The Colony - disk2.

There are 224 bytes different from my dump and the one from TOSEC (Colony, The (1990)(Mindscape)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr OCL][a].zip).
This time the difference seems to be on an empty space of the disk.
Yet, which one is the unmodified dump: mine or TOSEC's ?

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 01:07

This one will be interesting for you, TCD and mai

.

I uploaded Dyter-07 - disk1 and disk2, cracked by Tristar.

Disk 2 is identical to Dyter-07 (1990)(reLINE)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr Tristar][h ACU - TFS] from TOSEC.
Disk 1 is unmodified and missing from TOSEC, because the only one in TOSEC (by Tristar) has the [v BGS9] tag. (virus?)

So my dumps will come in handy

.

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 02:00

Another one, absolutely missing from TOSEC:

Loom GERMAN, cracked by Vision Factory - disk1 and disk2.

Disk 3 is missing, unfortunately, because my third floppy has errors on some files

.
I tried all possible ways to recover it, but no luck.
I could upload the third disk with errors (extended adf); it would be better than nothing, I suppose...
Or perhaps some German mate reads this thread and finds it among his floppies, hopefully!

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 03:39

The last one for today:

I uploaded my dump of Circus Attractions - disk1, which is different from TOSEC's Circus Attractions (1989)(Rainbow Arts)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr VF].zip.
There is only a 9 bytes difference between them, in the bootblock.
What do these 9 bytes change?

Akira · 28 March 2009, 03:53

What does one care of a 9 byte difference? It could be anything, probably irrelevant.
This is why I always been against TOSEC, it just adds things which are mostly unnecesary. I could upload my disks and they will be different to any TOSEC but I don't believe they are worth anything.There's no "good dump"of pirated software, I believe.

Thank ze gods for the SPS!

TheCyberDruid · 28 March 2009, 08:06

There are both good dumps and good cracks. The interesting thing is to find the combination of both

With a good crack you don't have the manual protection, which isn't a too bad thing. What TOSEC lacks is an indicator for which disks are complete (nothing removed) and playable till the end.

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

What does one care of a 9 byte difference? It could be anything, probably irrelevant.
This is why I always been against TOSEC, it just adds things which are mostly unnecesary. I could upload my disks and they will be different to any TOSEC but I don't believe they are worth anything.There's no "good dump"of pirated software, I believe.

You're right, Akira, but... since TOSEC exists, and since many differently cracked/hacked versions exists, why not uploading them if I found some new?

I do 100% agree with you in case of bad or oversized dumps ([b]/[o]), though.

That said, are my uploads appreciated? I have many more to come...

TheCyberDruid · 28 March 2009, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

That said, are my uploads appreciated? I have many more to come...

Consider me your fan

Yes, your uploads are appreciated

I hope you find a new crack or maybe even a trainer one day

Edit : Just a thought Supamax

Maybe it's better just to name the TOSEC disk here, instead of uploading it to the zone. Almost all disks are available on both Magix sites and the once you don't find there you aren't allowed to upload here either

. So just tell us the name of the disk and we can grab them ourselves

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Edit : Just a thought Supamax

Maybe it's better just to name the TOSEC disk here, instead of uploading it to the zone. Almost all disks are available on both Magix sites and the once you don't find there you aren't allowed to upload here either

. So just tell us the name of the disk and we can grab them ourselves

You're right. I updated my posts and deleted the files from The Zone

Quote:

I hope you find a new crack or maybe even a trainer one day

What about Loom (GE)? Am I the first one to dump it? Do you know someone who could have the third floppy (without errors)?

TheCyberDruid · 28 March 2009, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

What about Loom (GE)? Am I the first one to dump it? Do you know someone who could have the third floppy (without errors)?

Hmm, it seems like you're the first one with these disks. Maybe mai knows something about it (and has the third disk)

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 19:46

Hi,

I uploaded to The Zone my dump of PaNorAmA Toolkit - 26 November 1986.

As usual, it's obtained from my real floppy.
I cannot find this release on Magix website, in the folder "TOSEC/Public Domain Collections".
It's not a "regular" release, with its release number. Perhaps it's another MIA (Missing In Action).

mai · 28 March 2009, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Hmm, it seems like you're the first one with these disks. Maybe mai knows something about it (and has the third disk)

Seems to be rare, never seen before.
@Supamax:
I think its not a big problem, if disk 3 is missing, in most cases you can use the disk 3 of a different crack, there are a few around(TRSi, Supreme, Coca Cola Crew).

TheCyberDruid · 28 March 2009, 20:39

Are all three cracks German? I only know that the Cock-A-Cola one is German.

mai · 28 March 2009, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Are all three cracks German? I only know that the Cock-A-Cola one is German.

Yes, german versions.

TheCyberDruid · 28 March 2009, 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

Yes, german versions.

*cough* Since the TRSI and Supreme versions are not in the latest TOSEC...

Would be great if you could upload them

mai · 28 March 2009, 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

*cough* Since the TRSI and Supreme versions are not in the latest TOSEC...

Would be great if you could upload them

You know, where to find the disks!!

If you wish, of course i can upload to the zone, but no need to move to EAB server.

TheCyberDruid · 28 March 2009, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

You know, where to find the disks!!

I think I got the hint

Okay will check that later and ask again if my guess was wrong

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 21:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Are all three cracks German? I only know that the Cock-A-Cola one is German.

?
In TOSEC I didn't see any German version of Loom... only (FR) is specified.
Are they missing the (GE) label in their names?

TheCyberDruid · 28 March 2009, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

?
In TOSEC I didn't see any German version of Loom... only (FR) is specified.
Are they missing the (GE) label in their names?

Yup, the Cock-A-Cola version misses the (De) flag

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 21:44

Hi,

following TCD's kind request

, I uploaded to The Zone my dump of PaNorAmA 14A - 11 February 87, which is different from TOSEC's Panorama - Disk 14A (1987-02-11)(Pacific North-West Amigas Club)[WB].zip.
The different bytes are 13.263.

By examining my dump with a hex editor, it's possible to see a partial Italian translation and *many* references to "BST" and to "The Bitstoppers" (they are the same group).

TheCyberDruid · 29 March 2009, 00:54

@mai
Found the Supreme version, but I really have no clue where to find the TRSI version

Supamax · 29 March 2009, 00:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

@mai
Found the Supreme version, but I really have no clue where to find the TRSI version

I'm interested, too

.
I'm interested to all previously undumped releases, too.

Supamax · 29 March 2009, 01:55

Hi again,

I uploaded my dump of Zero Gravity (EAS) - cracked by Vision Factory.

It's different by TOSEC's Zero Gravity (1988)(EAS).zip, and it shows the onscreen credit "cracked by Vision Factory for Rage & Dynamic Systems".

Supamax · 29 March 2009, 03:06

I also uploaded this dump:

INDIANA UTILITY DISK

I don't know who released this, but it contains the solution + partial password codes for INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE.

Supamax · 29 March 2009, 04:02

The last one for today:

I uploaded my dump of Sim City - cracked by TRISTAR & D.C.S.

It's different (different loading and different WB icons) from TOSEC's
SimCity (1989)(Infogrames)[cr Tristar - DCS][512k]
SimCity (1989)(Infogrames)[cr Tristar - DCS][a][512k]

so perhaps my dump could be included in TOSEC with the name:
SimCity (1989)(Infogrames)[cr Tristar - DCS][a2][512k]

mai · 29 March 2009, 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

@mai
Found the Supreme version, but I really have no clue where to find the TRSI version

Thanks must go to "Logix".
Scan the user/logix folder.

Supamax · 29 March 2009, 19:38

Hi,

I uploaded my dump of Panza Kick Boxing (FR) [cr Angels - Defjam - Genesis] (2 disks).

It's different from those ones on TOSEC, and it doesn't seem to have the Saddam virus.

Also, it's in FRENCH language (which is not specified in the TOSEC DAT).

Supamax · 30 March 2009, 04:39

Hi again,

I uploaded my dump of Bubble Bobble (USA) [cr PARANOIMIA].

It's different from all other releases in TOSEC, so it could be previously undumped.

@ TCD: you wrote "I hope you find a new crack or maybe even a trainer one day". Will you enjoy this one?

TheCyberDruid · 30 March 2009, 08:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

Thanks must go to "Logix".
Scan the user/logix folder.

Ah, logix folder. I know that he has non-TOSEC disks in there, but didn't look in there

Thanks for the info mai and to logix for the disks

Supamax · 28 April 2009, 00:43

Hi mates,

I uploaded to The Zone the .adf image of my Feud [cr Hotline ?] floppy.
It looks like cracked by Hotline, and I couldn't find it in TOSEC.

Hopefully it's a previously undumped release

.

Supamax · 05 May 2009, 20:39

Hi,

I uploaded to The Zone my dump of Wrath of the demon.
It's cracked by Skid-Row, and the trainer is by SWITCH.

As usual, it's obtained from my real floppies.
Disks 2..5 are the same as TOSEC's "[cr SKR][!]" files, but disk 1 is different.

So it's probably previously undumped.

demoniac · 08 May 2009, 03:19

I remember the Switch trainer when the game came out.

Supamax · 13 May 2009, 01:04

Hi,

I uploaded to The Zone my dump of Skidz [cr FPL + CRISTINA].
As usual, it's obtained from my real floppy.

It would seem previously undumped.

27 March 2009, 22:02	#1
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	New floppies for TOSEC (probably) Hi fellows, I uploaded to The Zone my dump of F-16 Combat Pilot. It's obtained from my real floppy. You can compare it with this one from TOSEC: F-16 Combat Pilot (1989)(Digital Integration).zip (it's the only one very similar to my dump). I'm 100% sure of my dumps' quality, but, when compared, the two images have differences. I wonder if my version is a slightly different one, or if it is ruined somehow. This would be very strange, since I have no physical errors on the real floppy. And I never overwrote it (saves, records, etc.). Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:33.

27 March 2009, 22:12	#2
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	Hi again, I also uploaded my dump of Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show - disk1. There are only 32 bytes different from my dump and the one from TOSEC (Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show (1989)(MicroValue)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PNA].zip). Among other differences, in my dump you can read (with a hex editor) "THE LEADERS" instead of "PARANOIMIA", and "ROBOCOP BBS SPREAD!" instead of "PARANOIMIA PRESENTS". I suppose this is an italian BBS hack, so this could be effectively included in TOSEC as a different "version" . Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:36.

27 March 2009, 22:16	#3
TheCyberDruid Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,447	Most likely this gets a '[h Leaders]' tag then __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

27 March 2009, 22:52	#4
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	Another one in the Zone: The Colony - disk2. There are 224 bytes different from my dump and the one from TOSEC (Colony, The (1990)(Mindscape)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr OCL][a].zip). This time the difference seems to be on an empty space of the disk. Yet, which one is the unmodified dump: mine or TOSEC's ? Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:36.

28 March 2009, 01:07	#5
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	This one will be interesting for you, TCD and mai . I uploaded Dyter-07 - disk1 and disk2, cracked by Tristar. Disk 2 is identical to Dyter-07 (1990)(reLINE)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr Tristar][h ACU - TFS] from TOSEC. Disk 1 is unmodified and missing from TOSEC, because the only one in TOSEC (by Tristar) has the [v BGS9] tag. (virus?) So my dumps will come in handy . Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:35.

28 March 2009, 02:00	#6
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	Another one, absolutely missing from TOSEC: Loom GERMAN, cracked by Vision Factory - disk1 and disk2. Disk 3 is missing, unfortunately, because my third floppy has errors on some files . I tried all possible ways to recover it, but no luck. I could upload the third disk with errors (extended adf); it would be better than nothing, I suppose... Or perhaps some German mate reads this thread and finds it among his floppies, hopefully! Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:36.

28 March 2009, 03:39	#7
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	The last one for today: I uploaded my dump of Circus Attractions - disk1, which is different from TOSEC's Circus Attractions (1989)(Rainbow Arts)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr VF].zip. There is only a 9 bytes difference between them, in the bootblock. What do these 9 bytes change? Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:36.

28 March 2009, 03:53	#8
Akira Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: # Posts: 12,584	What does one care of a 9 byte difference? It could be anything, probably irrelevant. This is why I always been against TOSEC, it just adds things which are mostly unnecesary. I could upload my disks and they will be different to any TOSEC but I don't believe they are worth anything.There's no "good dump"of pirated software, I believe. Thank ze gods for the SPS!

28 March 2009, 08:06	#9
TheCyberDruid Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,447	There are both good dumps and good cracks. The interesting thing is to find the combination of both With a good crack you don't have the manual protection, which isn't a too bad thing. What TOSEC lacks is an indicator for which disks are complete (nothing removed) and playable till the end. __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

28 March 2009, 19:46	#14
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	Hi, I uploaded to The Zone my dump of PaNorAmA Toolkit - 26 November 1986. As usual, it's obtained from my real floppy. I cannot find this release on Magix website, in the folder "TOSEC/Public Domain Collections". It's not a "regular" release, with its release number. Perhaps it's another MIA (Missing In Action). Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:37.

28 March 2009, 20:39	#16
TheCyberDruid Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,447	Are all three cracks German? I only know that the Cock-A-Cola one is German. __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

28 March 2009, 21:44	#23
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	Hi, following TCD's kind request , I uploaded to The Zone my dump of PaNorAmA 14A - 11 February 87, which is different from TOSEC's Panorama - Disk 14A (1987-02-11)(Pacific North-West Amigas Club)[WB].zip. The different bytes are 13.263. By examining my dump with a hex editor, it's possible to see a partial Italian translation and many references to "BST" and to "The Bitstoppers" (they are the same group).

29 March 2009, 00:54	#24
TheCyberDruid Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,447	@mai Found the Supreme version, but I really have no clue where to find the TRSI version __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

29 March 2009, 01:55	#26
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	Hi again, I uploaded my dump of Zero Gravity (EAS) - cracked by Vision Factory. It's different by TOSEC's Zero Gravity (1988)(EAS).zip, and it shows the onscreen credit "cracked by Vision Factory for Rage & Dynamic Systems".

29 March 2009, 03:06	#27
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	I also uploaded this dump: INDIANA UTILITY DISK I don't know who released this, but it contains the solution + partial password codes for INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE.

29 March 2009, 04:02	#28
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	The last one for today: I uploaded my dump of Sim City - cracked by TRISTAR & D.C.S. It's different (different loading and different WB icons) from TOSEC's SimCity (1989)(Infogrames)[cr Tristar - DCS][512k] SimCity (1989)(Infogrames)[cr Tristar - DCS][a][512k] so perhaps my dump could be included in TOSEC with the name: SimCity (1989)(Infogrames)[cr Tristar - DCS][a2][512k]

29 March 2009, 19:38	#30
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	Hi, I uploaded my dump of Panza Kick Boxing (FR) [cr Angels - Defjam - Genesis] (2 disks). It's different from those ones on TOSEC, and it doesn't seem to have the Saddam virus. Also, it's in FRENCH language (which is not specified in the TOSEC DAT).

30 March 2009, 04:39	#31
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	Hi again, I uploaded my dump of Bubble Bobble (USA) [cr PARANOIMIA]. It's different from all other releases in TOSEC, so it could be previously undumped. @ TCD: you wrote "I hope you find a new crack or maybe even a trainer one day". Will you enjoy this one?

28 April 2009, 00:43	#33
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	Hi mates, I uploaded to The Zone the .adf image of my Feud [cr Hotline ?] floppy. It looks like cracked by Hotline, and I couldn't find it in TOSEC. Hopefully it's a previously undumped release . Last edited by Supamax; 28 April 2009 at 00:51.

05 May 2009, 20:39	#34
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	Hi, I uploaded to The Zone my dump of Wrath of the demon. It's cracked by Skid-Row, and the trainer is by SWITCH. As usual, it's obtained from my real floppies. Disks 2..5 are the same as TOSEC's "[cr SKR][!]" files, but disk 1 is different. So it's probably previously undumped.

08 May 2009, 03:19	#35
demoniac Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: - Posts: 1,119	I remember the Switch trainer when the game came out.

13 May 2009, 01:04	#36
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 1,989	Hi, I uploaded to The Zone my dump of Skidz [cr FPL + CRISTINA]. As usual, it's obtained from my real floppy. It would seem previously undumped.

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