Lotus Turbo Challenge Remake in 96k

Bobic · 31 March 2005, 12:28

The Breakpoint demoparty, held last weekend, featured also a 96k game competition. The winner game is a remake of the original Lotus Turbo Challenge in a size of just 96k. It looks like the original game, so give it a try: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=16427

I also would like to point your attention to two Amiga demos from that party: "Ocean Machine" from TBL and "Multiverse" from Loonies. Especially the demo from TBL shows some effects in a never seen before quality on 68k and AGA! And that music.... WOW!
http://ada.planet-d.net/showdemo.php?demoid=478
http://ada.planet-d.net/showdemo.php?demoid=479

ant512 · 31 March 2005, 13:26

Looks like the archive has been stripped from the site, and every mirror. Either that, or they haven't got it uploaded yet.

Duke · 31 March 2005, 13:50

Just tried it, works great

Frog · 31 March 2005, 13:55

The 96k version of Lotus 1 is really impressive !! First listening of the title music sound a bit strange but after few seconds, it sounds nice too. Excellent work for sure !... and they talk about the sequel for next year

Most of 96k game or similar compo were majority pc release so it's a nice surprise to see an amiga game and it deserve his 1st place at the compo !

@ant : did you try with the pouet link ? it works 1 hour ago.

@Bobic : do you know if Yolk's music from TBL demo is available somewhere ? i try to rip it with RipIT (which handle S3M,XM,IT tracker) without success, i fear it's a streaming format. BTW for non-french people the women's voice is "mustard it's strong and it's for that it's good"

EmuChicken · 31 March 2005, 14:17

Is anything new added to the game - or is it just a "rebranded" and compressed version of the original??
Looks more like an amiga coverdisk demo game with the amount of "SCARAB" ads!

ant512 · 31 March 2005, 14:56

Download works in IE, but not Firefox. Might be the crap network setup here.

EDIT: Tried it. The game itself is identical to the original; it's just the option/intro/presentation screens that have changed. I could be wrong, but I'd guess that it's a modified disassembly of the original game.

EmuChicken · 31 March 2005, 15:37

Lets just hope that someone will do Supercars 2 with extra tracks or something

Duke · 31 March 2005, 15:37

The download works fine in Firefox here.

Amiga1992 · 31 March 2005, 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobic

I also would like to point your attention to two Amiga demos from that party: "Ocean Machine" from TBL and "Multiverse" from Loonies. Especially the demo from TBL shows some effects in a never seen before quality on 68k and AGA! And that music.... WOW!
http://ada.planet-d.net/showdemo.php?demoid=478
http://ada.planet-d.net/showdemo.php?demoid=479

What sort of Amiga do these need?

killergorilla · 31 March 2005, 16:23

To quote the site:

Code:

system requirements:
chipset: aga
required: 68060, FPU, 32Mb Fast Mem

ant512 · 31 March 2005, 17:26

Both the demos work without any real problems (some flickering during palette fades) in WinUAE. Technically, they're both very impressive - pretty much every effect is something that people 10 years ago would have thought impossible. At the same time, though, they're both... Um... Dull. Frighteningly dull. Some spinny 3D stuff; more spinny 3D stuff; ooo, some 3D stuff that spins. Whatever happened to entertaining demos?

Bobic · 31 March 2005, 17:59

@Frog: Yolk uploaded the track (mp3 format, 11MB) onto his website, because so many people requested it at www.pouet.net. He posted the link to the comments of this demo here -> http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=16337

Frog · 31 March 2005, 18:15

@bobic : thx for the info

Frog · 31 March 2005, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmuChicken

Lets just hope that someone will do Supercars 2 with extra tracks or something

that would be cool

killergorilla · 31 March 2005, 18:25

Gotta agree with this. I only watched the first one and yes I was impressed with the visual feats that were being performed but essentially I was bored.

It just felt 'dull'.

It's a shame!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ant512

Both the demos work without any real problems (some flickering during palette fades) in WinUAE. Technically, they're both very impressive - pretty much every effect is something that people 10 years ago would have thought impossible. At the same time, though, they're both... Um... Dull. Frighteningly dull. Some spinny 3D stuff; more spinny 3D stuff; ooo, some 3D stuff that spins. Whatever happened to entertaining demos?

Marcuz · 31 March 2005, 19:45

Bobic you're great thanks for the fantastic links! i greatly miss not know anything of the demoscene apart from the sites around, those guys are really something

Amiga1992 · 31 March 2005, 20:01

Arse, an 060. I pass...

Frog · 31 March 2005, 20:23

@Akira : even on 030 you can watch them and get an overall felling... it's always better than a slideshow

don't forget to start every patch that can speed up the sys (setpatch, blazewcp, fblit etc..) who knows perhaps they could have some positive effect.

Codetapper · 31 March 2005, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobic

The Breakpoint demoparty, held last weekend, featured also a 96k game competition. The winner game is a remake of the original Lotus Turbo Challenge in a size of just 96k. It looks like the original game, so give it a try: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=16427

From a technical point of view, that is a very impressive achievement as it even has lots of the sound effects from the original game. However, I don't know how anyone can release this as a game they made because I would say a huge amount of the code has simply been ripped/included from Lotus Esprit Turbo Challenge.

The graphics are chunkier in places which is fair enough to save space, but I believe that the majority of the work for this "game" to be written is actually ripping the graphics from the original game then removing as much as possible while using effecient code to mirror the cars, stretch the graphics to create the missing frames in RAM, thus saving space.

The guys obviously have great skills and it would be nicer to see them work on an original game than how to compress an existing one and change a few tiny parts to release a "new" game...

Shoonay · 31 March 2005, 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frog

don't forget to start every patch that can speed up the sys (setpatch, blazewcp, fblit etc..)

What "etc.."

... well, there's also SystemPatch... but...

I thought that was it

- or are there any more patches that speed up the system

Me wants to know

31 March 2005, 12:28	#1
Bobic Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 48 Posts: 103	Lotus Turbo Challenge Remake in 96k The Breakpoint demoparty, held last weekend, featured also a 96k game competition. The winner game is a remake of the original Lotus Turbo Challenge in a size of just 96k. It looks like the original game, so give it a try: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=16427 I also would like to point your attention to two Amiga demos from that party: "Ocean Machine" from TBL and "Multiverse" from Loonies. Especially the demo from TBL shows some effects in a never seen before quality on 68k and AGA! And that music.... WOW! http://ada.planet-d.net/showdemo.php?demoid=478 http://ada.planet-d.net/showdemo.php?demoid=479

31 March 2005, 13:55	#4
Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,385	The 96k version of Lotus 1 is really impressive !! First listening of the title music sound a bit strange but after few seconds, it sounds nice too. Excellent work for sure !... and they talk about the sequel for next year Most of 96k game or similar compo were majority pc release so it's a nice surprise to see an amiga game and it deserve his 1st place at the compo ! @ant : did you try with the pouet link ? it works 1 hour ago. @Bobic : do you know if Yolk's music from TBL demo is available somewhere ? i try to rip it with RipIT (which handle S3M,XM,IT tracker) without success, i fear it's a streaming format. BTW for non-french people the women's voice is "mustard it's strong and it's for that it's good" Last edited by Frog; 31 March 2005 at 14:26.

31 March 2005, 14:56	#6
ant512 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 965	Download works in IE, but not Firefox. Might be the crap network setup here. EDIT: Tried it. The game itself is identical to the original; it's just the option/intro/presentation screens that have changed. I could be wrong, but I'd guess that it's a modified disassembly of the original game. Last edited by ant512; 31 March 2005 at 15:14.

31 March 2005, 16:23	#10
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	To quote the site: Code: system requirements: chipset: aga required: 68060, FPU, 32Mb Fast Mem

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31 March 2005, 13:26	#2
ant512 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 965	Looks like the archive has been stripped from the site, and every mirror. Either that, or they haven't got it uploaded yet.

31 March 2005, 13:50	#3
Duke HOL-Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 520	Just tried it, works great

31 March 2005, 14:17	#5
EmuChicken Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nagoya, Japan (moved!) Age: 41 Posts: 746	Is anything new added to the game - or is it just a "rebranded" and compressed version of the original?? Looks more like an amiga coverdisk demo game with the amount of "SCARAB" ads!

31 March 2005, 15:37	#7
EmuChicken Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nagoya, Japan (moved!) Age: 41 Posts: 746	Lets just hope that someone will do Supercars 2 with extra tracks or something

31 March 2005, 17:26	#11
ant512 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 965	Both the demos work without any real problems (some flickering during palette fades) in WinUAE. Technically, they're both very impressive - pretty much every effect is something that people 10 years ago would have thought impossible. At the same time, though, they're both... Um... Dull. Frighteningly dull. Some spinny 3D stuff; more spinny 3D stuff; ooo, some 3D stuff that spins. Whatever happened to entertaining demos?

31 March 2005, 17:59	#12
Bobic Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 48 Posts: 103	@Frog: Yolk uploaded the track (mp3 format, 11MB) onto his website, because so many people requested it at www.pouet.net. He posted the link to the comments of this demo here -> http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=16337

31 March 2005, 18:15	#13
Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,385	@bobic : thx for the info

31 March 2005, 19:45	#16
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	Bobic you're great thanks for the fantastic links! i greatly miss not know anything of the demoscene apart from the sites around, those guys are really something

31 March 2005, 20:01	#17
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	Arse, an 060. I pass...

31 March 2005, 20:23	#18
Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,385	@Akira : even on 030 you can watch them and get an overall felling... it's always better than a slideshow don't forget to start every patch that can speed up the sys (setpatch, blazewcp, fblit etc..) who knows perhaps they could have some positive effect.

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