Has EAB blocked ChatGPT?

[Nightfox]

To be clear, when ChatGPT does internet searches, it clearly does cite the sources. It just won't do that when the information it uses is already in its own knowledge base.

[commodorejohn]

Originally Posted by dreadnought

In fact I'd say it should be pretty obvious it won't be another dotcom or whatever right now, but I get it that some folks like to live on the controvershial edge.

You're right, the situation here is in no way comparable to the dotcom bubble!

...'cause the dotcom bubble never reached a phase where the major players were begging for handouts to the tune of trillions in hopes of developing tech that would hypothetically allow their fundamental infrastructure to burn money at a slightly slower rate and admitting outright that their entire industry was long-term unsustainable just on an energy level without Unspecified Future Breakthroughs that were assuredly coming Real Soon Now

[dreadnought]

Right on, let's prove the "AI" is bust with a paywalled link about Altman's trip to UAE and something something climate change.

Meanwhile, ChatGPT and its ilk are already here and it's rather clear all they need is a bit of tweaking and further training to truly become what search engines set out to be in the first place, and not even mentioning real VPAs, DALL-E, and people losing their jobs across a vast array of fields.

[ShK]

I have found this a good channel to follow weekly AI news. Here's last week summary:

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[commodorejohn]

Originally Posted by dreadnought

Right on, let's prove the "AI" is bust with a paywalled link about Altman's trip to UAE and something something climate change.

Just sayin', I'm not gonna place any bets on a business whose #1 big cheese says they need $7 trillion just to keep it afloat hanging around for long

[Nightfox]

Originally Posted by ShK

I have found this a good channel to follow weekly AI news. Here's last week summary:

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I also recommend this guy for the latest in AI

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[RCK]

Originally Posted by jman

hey Rick, thanks for throttling the scraping on EAB, so at least we legit users can keep on enjoying its content without disruption.

However, this does not address the point of allowing LLMs scraping our content which, in my opinion, is not the same of allowing a search engine.
Of course feel free to determine what you believe is better for EAB (I will do that with my finances as well).

The problem is that bots (or LLMs) are not always using correct user-agents to announce themselve, so I can't block or ratelimit them.
The only way to stop bots would be to make EAB's completly private, and I won't do that because we are here to help people

[Photon]

Answers I share here to help others, not for some inhuman engine to generate incorrect spam. What you write is your Intellectual Property.

Perhaps there could be a Captcha or similar verification on threads (and the search boxes) for not logged in humans, except say 1% of the threads? That's still a lot of data, allowing search results to give a first page hit in search engines.

Your likeness is protected. Maybe also a similar human reveal button for images? Just in case someone shares a photo of them or others.

[DisasterIncarna]

Originally Posted by Photon

Answers I share here to help others, not for some inhuman engine to generate incorrect spam.

Thats certainly 1 issue with these AI engines, the other issue ofc is that when an AI scrapes info from something like a forum its probably also taking peoples responses to a multitude of topics to then train itself on human behaviour and interaction.

So these AI bots arent always there to produce "help" for others, its also very much about taking as much data as possible to train a better version of itself for free.

Same deal with AI generated pictures, they dont just magic artwork up out of nowhere, they need a massive collection of pictures/data to learn/adapt from and these things basically take anything and everything, personal pictures, commercial pictures, free pictures etc.

Personally, thats why im not a fan of stuff like chat-gpt, yeah it looks and sounds impressive, but its all a massive exercise in stealing data and using it without permission.

[DisasterIncarna]

btw whats up with my posts getting multiple new lines added between paragraphs? keep having to edit my posts and delete blank lines.

[giantclam]

Originally Posted by DisasterIncarna

btw whats up with my posts getting multiple new lines added between paragraphs? keep having to edit my posts and delete blank lines.

+1 on this, damned annoying pita...

[TCD]

Originally Posted by DisasterIncarna

btw whats up with my posts getting multiple new lines added between paragraphs? keep having to edit my posts and delete blank lines.

Do you use Firefox? It's a known issue with vBulletin and Firefox: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...62e465f7b8db9e (there is kind of a fix on the last page)

[malko]

Originally Posted by TCD

Do you use Firefox? It's a known issue with vBulletin and Firefox: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...62e465f7b8db9e (there is kind of a fix on the last page)

Thanks TCD !

I now know what's happening on the back of posts with these damn blank lines.

[dreadnought]

Hello hello hello

testing damn lines

Wow. I think fixed? Thanks, TCD, I had asked about before but the answer was that it's something with vb itself, not FF.

[DisasterIncarna]

Originally Posted by TCD

Do you use Firefox? It's a known issue with vBulletin and Firefox: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...62e465f7b8db9e (there is kind of a fix on the last page)

i do yes, weird as ive always used firefox and its only happened to me recently.

[RCK]

Originally Posted by TCD

Do you use Firefox? It's a known issue with vBulletin and Firefox: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...62e465f7b8db9e (there is kind of a fix on the last page)

So I applied the fix for firefox
Firefox user should try to refresh EAB with CTRL+F5 and see if it's better now.

	// deal with newline characters
	if (is_browser('mozilla'))
	{
		$text = preg_replace('#(?<!<br>|<br />|\r)(\r\n|\n|\r)#', ' ', $text);
		$text = preg_replace('#<br>#', '', $text);
	}

[dreadnought]

Testing testing testing testing
So I applied the fix for firefox
Firefox user should try to refresh EAB with CTRL+F5 and see if it's better now.
Testing testing testing testing
So I applied the fix for firefox
Firefox user should try to refresh EAB with CTRL+F5 and see if it's better now.


EDIT....allright, seems better now? Thank you.

[TCD]

Let's see if that worked
There shouldn't be an empty line above.

Here should only be one.

Edit: Yay, it worked
Thank you, RCK

[TCD]

Hmm, seems that if you quote somebody it removes the line breaks from the quoted text now.

[giantclam]

Originally Posted by TCD

Hmm, seems that if you quote somebody it removes the line breaks from the quoted text now.

Firstly, thanks @RCK for the fix...

@TCD ~ confirmed, same thing here....