Discussion about the cost and value of new Amiga games and whether they are overcharged or not!

[Rochabian]

Back in the days, games that were good or bad were sold the same price in box, Monkey Island was not sold £99 because it was good reviewed

[nikosidis]

Originally Posted by DamienD

For your information; yes I have purchased both Reshoot games... did you not read what I wrote in the thread?

You call people stupid for buying games at 35$ how much did you pay for Reshoot R?

[BippyM]

Originally Posted by Rochabian

Back in the days, games that were good or bad were sold the same price in box

Back in the days things were a lot different weren't they. Professional publishing houses. Developers not reviewing their own games and rating them higher than other games.. etc etc etc.


Also in the 90's developers and publisghers were not directly interacting with their customers, they were not directly able to influence them. Magazines often reviewed the games, and a lot would fail to sell because they were so rubbish!


Nowadays, there are so few releases, it's easy to release any old shit, and people will just clamour to buy it.. Or if you're a collector just pay to have a 100% complete collection..




Fuck it.. I'm going to write a cheap, shit, wanky game.. Have a decent box made and flog it for £45.. The collectors will buy it wont they?????

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by nikosidis

You call people stupid for buying games at 35$ how much did you pay for Reshoot R?

Yup €29.95, as that's the crazy price of this digital download

...and boy, don't I feel stupid / ripped off

If there was an option to return then I most definitely would... I've only probably played it 5 times maximum...

[nikosidis]

The reason I bought original Amigas again where Worthy and Reshoot R. Also hoping for even more quality releases and there been some already My pocket book are open to anything of quality for my Amigas

[Rochabian]

The problem is they count on collectors to buy them
But what for players only ?
10£ for digital is a maximum for me, good or bad game

[mcgeezer]

Originally Posted by BippyM

Fuck it.. I'm going to write a cheap, shit, wanky game.. Have a decent box made and flog it for £45.. The collectors will buy it wont they?????

They probably will...

However this lad knows the craic.....above his LEFT shoulder, TOP of the shelf, decent box that well worth £45.

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[nikosidis]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Yup €29.95, as that's the crazy price of this digital download

...and boy, don't I feel stupid / ripped off

If there was an option to return then I most definitely would... I've only probably played it 5 times maximum...

Sad for you. I had more fun with that game than any other game on any platform in long time. It is worth every penny I payed for it and more. I completed it but still play it from time to time. I bought many games on PC that was so called game of the year or whatever that I played maximum 2 times. That made me feel cheated. The world is a strange place issen't it.

[BippyM]

The problem is they KNOW the collectors will buy them, and as such they are targeting collectors.. Do you not see that as an issue??


£10 is a fair price, and if it is shite, again it wont sell, so all good

Originally Posted by Rochabian

The problem is they count on collectors to buy them
But what for players only ?
10£ for digital is a maximum for me, good or bad game

[Rochabian]

on ich.io they are really good games (some are bad too) for less than £15
Micro mages is 10€ for example
Why it's not possible with digital release on Amiga? Collectors is the target? A shame because a game has to played by players before all !

[Rochabian]

Originally Posted by BippyM

The problem is they KNOW the collectors will buy them, and as such they are targeting collectors.. Do you not see that as an issue??


£10 is a fair price, and if it is shite, again it wont sell, so all good

I totally agree with that

[nikosidis]

Originally Posted by Rochabian

on ich.io they are really good games (some are bad too) for less than £15<br />
Micro mages is 10€ for example<br />
Why it's not possible with digital release on Amiga? Collectors is the target? A shame because a game has to played by players before all !

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Who said it is no quality release less that 15£ It is even quality released for free. The problem is that normaly it is not like that.<br />
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Everything got digital releases for Amiga? Boxes come mostly later.

[BippyM]

Originally Posted by Rochabian

on ich.io they are really good games (some are bad too) for less than £15
Micro mages is 10€ for example
Why it's not possible with digital release on Amiga? Collectors is the target? A shame because a game has to played by players before all !

Have a look at post #44.. Tell me if those digital prices seem reasonable!

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by nikosidis

Sad for you. I had more fun with that game than any other game on any platform in long time.

Again, I believe you are in the minority with your praise for this game... but that's ok, each to their own.

In fact; I actually enjoyed the demo of "Reshoot R" a lot more than the final product.

For me Worthy / Rygar: The Legendary Warrior / Powerglove and some others mentioned here in this thread are far more enjoyable games; and sold at reasonable / decent prices also

[Rochabian]

Originally Posted by nikosidis

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Who said it is no quality release less that 15£ It is even quality released for free. The problem is that normaly it is not like that.<br />
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Everything got digital releases for Amiga? Boxes come mostly later.

I mean digital release at a reasonnable price

[nikosidis]

Originally Posted by BippyM

Have a look at post #44.. Tell me if those digital prices seem reasonable!

The cheaper it is the more reasonable it will be right? It is no more difficult than that. Free is the best.
It is just not how the world normally works.

[Rochabian]

Originally Posted by nikosidis

The cheaper it is the more reasonable it will be right? It is no more difficult than that. Free is the best.
It is just not how the world normally works.

Not free but below £15 which seems a good psychological price for digital release

Collectors can still buy the boxed version for £40 or more if they want...

I'm just a player

[BippyM]

Originally Posted by nikosidis

The cheaper it is the more reasonable it will be right? It is no more difficult than that. Free is the best.

It is just not how the world normally works.

And you think £30 is acceptable for a digital amiga game release? It's also not the price. They can charge what they like, it just wont sell... The main issue i have is the behaviour of the developer, especially on this forum..

It is not acceptable to post tidbits here and theb direct users to become a patreon for more info.

It is not acceptable to review one's own game and score it highly, then score other games low.

It is not acceptable to release a game tbat is pd quality for £35 and expect users to pay it just because of nostalgia!

It is not acceptable to intentionally make a game, to sell at a higher price to a collector, just because the developer knows a collector is going to buy it to be 100%.


The fact you're happy paying stupid prices for these games us your perogative, but it doesn't mean it is right does if? It also doesn't mean we cannot challenge these developers, and make the wider community aware.

[nikosidis]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Again, I believe you are in the minority with your praise for this game... but that's ok, each to their own.

In fact; I actually enjoyed the demo of "Reshoot R" a lot more than the final product.

For me Worthy / Rygar: The Legendary Warrior / Powerglove and some others mentioned here in this thread are far more enjoyable games; and sold at reasonable / decent prices also

I also love Worthy and Rygar. Taste are different. Price is what it is. Some times you buy something you regret. Other times you are happy with the purcase. Sure Reshoot R was priced quite higher than other Amiga games in long time. I think it was right you don't but still bought the game If you had enjoyed it like I have you might have different opinion.

[Rochabian]

Originally Posted by nikosidis

I also love Worthy and Rygar. Taste are different. Price is what it is. Some times you buy something you regret. Other times you are happy with the purcase. Sure Reshoot R was priced quite higher than other Amiga games in long time. I think it was right you don't but still bought the game If you had enjoyed it like I have you might have different opinion.

it's your personal experience but will all buyers get it for the price?

Personnaly, i've bought No Man Sky 2 times
One from GOG and one from Steam to have more players Online
I've spend 100€ on that game, but for me it's ok, because i really like it

I think a random guy don't want to pay it more than 30€ and it's a AAA game and they are right