EAB/Lemon Super League 2019 Round 8: Shadow of the Beast II

[john4p]

First time to escape from the Goblin Fortress:



161,000

Didn't make the jump from a stone in the river afterwards.

[capehorn]

470,000 (score 1350)





I think that is the best score possible. I've given some thought to whether it is possible to have the magic weapon and three health potions at the end and it doesn't seem like it can be done.

I thought I could make it happen if you kill the two giants (near the swamp) and then head back and enter the whirlpool. Then you could drop the basic weapon when you pick up the horn, return to karamoon with the magic weapon, horn and two potions, use the horn and pick up the third potion in the castle. It doesn't work because those two giants are amongst the only major enemies in the game that respawn (they reappear after returning to Karamoon, even if you killed them already), and you need the basic weapon to kill them, so you don't have an opportunity to drop it, and therefore must carry it into the castle, leaving room for only two potions.

[john4p]

The fact alone that you still have 3 potions available at the end is really impressive.

[el_pasi]

After 1,5 hours of trying eventually I got some kind of lousy score And stupidly I used potion before getting ale, so my score (probably) is:

56,000 (50,000 + 6 x 1000)

[john4p]

Not bad, it's a start.

[Harry]

After trying several times to reach the ale, I decided to go to the axe instead and reached it with a few tries - this game is very hard. I enjoyed playing it with the cheat however (I also like playing games for the visual and auditive experience only.)
12000 (coins) + 15000 (axe) + 10000 (potion) = 37000

[john4p]

260,000

Died against the flying snake that comes out of a tree.

[DamienD]

Where's the money / score in your screenshot john4p?

...could be anything as there's no proof

[malko]

Good point Damien, even though John has accustomed us to great integrity

Is your post a sign that you are joining this round ?

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by malko

Good point Damien, even though John has accustomed us to great integrity

Just an observation; I'm sure john4p isn't lying about his score

Originally Posted by malko

Is your post a sign that you are joining this round ?

Nope, no time to play games ATM... but as you know, part of my role on EAB requires me to read all threads, so came across his post / screenshot...

[john4p]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Where's the money / score in your screenshot john4p?

...could be anything as there's no proof

Coins were 0 at this point because I paid the snail to return to Karamoon. But the score might be necessary as tie-breaker if someone shows the same items and health. Well, in that case he'll beat me if he shows any score.

[malko]

I will share a tip regarding "SotB II"

Not to far from the beginning of the game there is a guy pushing a big rock full of spikes.
Of course this guy has to be killed and the little weapon we have, pull just far enough to be tickled by the spikes.
So even if we are in a compo, for the ones that were not as crazy of SotB as I was BitD, and that did not try the "how much shots do I need to kill him ?", here is the solution : only 6 shots !

See attachment.

Enjoy

[john4p]

Thanks malko, I wanted to create a gif but that's perfect.

When you've hit him five times and are still far from the edge further hits won't do anything. So just run to the egde and wait for him to do the final sixth strike.

edit: Added your pics on Lemon (maybe now we'll finally get a Lemon score) and here to the first post.

[john4p]

This is the most important Amiga gaming feat I ever wanted to accomplish:

[ Show youtube player ]

450,000

Again forgot to press S so if anyone also beats the game and shows any in-game score he'll beat this.

[malko]

Well done mate

[malko]

By the way, I came across something annoying.
While playing on my netbook, the 'dog' is always with me so it's quite impossible to pull the switch without dying.
Thus I found another solution.
See attachment.
Just hope I won't get stuck in another part of the game because I didn't use the key here. Let's see
By the way, I have seen that using the key does not change the score so...

[capehorn]

Excellent playthrough John, well done. I remember it wasn't that long ago I thought I'd never be able to complete these two games, but the comp has proved how beatable they actually are.

There are parts of this you are very good at, I almost always lose health at the blockpusher but you made it look easy, and the dog pit is very difficult to do without losing health (although after two decades I finally worked out my own method for doing it this week).

I'll post my own video later in the week, and maybe this round will end up being a battle for first place after all

Incidently I discovered a glitch-bug today that allows you to collect endless money and complete the game without doing the entire dog pit/Ishran section of the game. I obviously won't use it but it is surprising what can happen when you push a game to it's limits.

[john4p]

Originally Posted by capehorn

Excellent playthrough John, well done. I remember it wasn't that long ago I thought I'd never be able to complete these two games, but the comp has proved how beatable they actually are.

Yeah with some dedication both indeed are very beatable.

Originally Posted by capehorn

There are parts of this you are very good at, I almost always lose health at the blockpusher but you made it look easy

After 50+ retries you start to get a feel for this.
You can hit him from further away than one would think.

Originally Posted by capehorn

and the dog pit is very difficult to do without losing health

That was luck. I often still lose a lot of health or die there when the dog decides to run after all.

Originally Posted by capehorn

although after two decades I finally worked out my own method for doing it this week

Is it the same method malko found?

Originally Posted by capehorn

I'll post my own video later in the week, and maybe this round will end up being a battle for first place after all

Looking forward to this.

Originally Posted by capehorn

Incidently I discovered a glitch-bug today that allows you to collect endless money and complete the game without doing the entire dog pit/Ishran section of the game. I obviously won't use it but it is surprising what can happen when you push a game to it's limits.

Interesting, wonder how this works.

Originally Posted by malko

By the way, I came across something annoying.
While playing on my netbook, the 'dog' is always with me so it's quite impossible to pull the switch without dying.
Thus I found another solution.
See attachment.
Just hope I won't get stuck in another part of the game because I didn't use the key here. Let's see
By the way, I have seen that using the key does not change the score so...

Really nice! Don't think the developers intended this but capehorn also told me about this possibility which is why we made keys worthless (so you can't carry the wooden key to the end).

[malko]

470'000 (250'000 + 200'000 + 10'000 + 10'000)
Looks like capehorn has a slightly better health than I have... grrrr
Regarding the score, I prefer a high one than the opposite

By the way, the dog pit can be completed with the second method (you are not stuck if you don't use the key).

[malko]

Originally Posted by john4p

Yeah with some dedication both indeed are very beatable. [...]

For me the last challenge in SotB II are the two giants throwing their axes. After them finishing the game without being touched a single time is not difficult.

Originally Posted by capehorn

[...] Incidently I discovered a glitch-bug today that allows you to collect endless money and complete the game without doing the entire dog pit/Ishran section of the game. I obviously won't use it but it is surprising what can happen when you push a game to it's limits.

Interesting as the prisoner in Ishran give you the password to Barloom's domain.
Waiting you to share your tip