I have created a Chaos Engine TC for Doom. - Page 2

Viceroy · 16 November 2018, 22:38

Brilliant!

Nobby_UK · 17 November 2018, 01:58

AMIGASYSTEM · 17 November 2018, 01:58

@Nobby_UK
You need to have ZDoom minimum v3.3.0 (latest v3.6.0) -> https://zdoom.org/downloads

Now it would take a porting ZDoom 3.6.0 for OS3

Devlin · 17 November 2018, 02:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobby_UK

I got the same error trying to launch it in Zandronum - I will probably install (G)ZDoom to try this though.

Great work, looks pretty sweet from the screenshots!

Cherno · 17 November 2018, 05:08

It won't work in Zandronum. As stated in the OP, you need the newest GZDoom version

AMIGASYSTEM · 17 November 2018, 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

@Nobby_UK
You need to have ZDoom minimum v3.3.0 (latest v3.6.0) -> https://zdoom.org/downloads

Now it would take a porting ZDoom 3.6.0 for OS3

as said, it works from the beginning of the version 3.3.x

Cherno · 17 November 2018, 17:10

Looks like the character portraits are not visible in some resolutions

It could also have something to do with the HUD scaling options.

Also, if you are new to GZDoom, tinker with the graphic settings. I like the distance shadow set to "radial", for example.

Nobby_UK · 17 November 2018, 17:30

Tried GZDoom but it failed with:
R_OPENGL: OpenGL driver not accelerated!

jotd · 17 November 2018, 18:11

Could you remap Doom characters to Chaos Engine ?

Cherno · 17 November 2018, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobby_UK

Tried GZDoom but it failed with:
R_OPENGL: OpenGL driver not accelerated!

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=55041

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

Could you remap Doom characters to Chaos Engine ?

Not sure what you mean by that?

Qube · 17 November 2018, 20:08

Very cool Cherno,

Will you be expanding this mod to include the other levels, e.g. Workshops?

I was recently wondering myself whether it would be difficult to remake Chaos (or any classic isometric/overhead shooter) in GZDoom by doing it as 3rd person with the camera slightly elevated and behind, or even overhead perhaps with very high ceilings and an overhead viewpoint, that art by Antto Koponen certainly gives you food for thought.

Other games that transitioned well to Doom are Hocus Pocus and Castlevania for those who aren't too familiar - https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=45804 and https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=57800.

Anyway, keep up the good work!

:-)

jotd · 17 November 2018, 20:25

I meant that as a joke. Playing 2D Chaos Engine with characters of Doom.

Cherno · 17 November 2018, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by qube

very cool cherno,

will you be expanding this mod to include the other levels, e.g. Workshops?

I was recently wondering myself whether it would be difficult to remake chaos (or any classic isometric/overhead shooter) in gzdoom by doing it as 3rd person with the camera slightly elevated and behind, or even overhead perhaps with very high ceilings and an overhead viewpoint, that art by antto koponen certainly gives you food for thought.

Other games that transitioned well to doom are hocus pocus and castlevania for those who aren't too familiar - https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=45804 and https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=57800.

Anyway, keep up the good work!

:-)

Quote:

making new levels is probably easier than before because i know a good workflow, but it would also mean having to create all the props like the stone pillars with faces on them and new monsters, and i don't even dare to think of the work that preparing the second world would mean

which is a shame since the second world in paticular has great aesthetics with all the steampunk machinery, walkways and buildings.

Quote:

I'm not sure if I will ever sit down and create more levels, mostly because of the heavy work involved in scripting all the ambushes and puzzle elements.

In short, I don't know. part of the reason I released this mod after not working on it for weeks was because I wanted to move on to other projects.

Qube · 17 November 2018, 20:45

Sounds like a lot of work. Always did like the Workshops levels, I guess they felt like a true fit for that Victorian England feel and era.

Shame the BB's never wanted to make a new CE using a modern game engine, e.g. UE4, but I guess the original team is no longer together these days.

Good stuff!
Q;

jotd · 17 November 2018, 21:30

shame that BB didn't release new level packs like they did with Cadaver, for other games like CE or Gods...

Qube · 17 November 2018, 21:44

Yep and these games were popular, so they would have sold those quite well I'm sure.

They could have also put out an Xmas special edition level via a magazine or something, those were always kind of fun for gamers at the end of a busy year.

Good times!
Q;

jotd · 17 November 2018, 21:59

We were really spoiled with Cadaver: 1 main game, 3 cover disks with 1 level each, and 4 new payoff levels.

Then ... Chaos Engine 2

AMIGASYSTEM · 18 November 2018, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobby_UK

Tried GZDoom but it failed with:
R_OPENGL: OpenGL driver not accelerated!

It could be a compatibility problem Video Card, try to download OpenGL drivers from the manufacturer's website

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gimbal · 19 November 2018, 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

We were really spoiled with Cadaver: 1 main game, 3 cover disks with 1 level each, and 4 new payoff levels.

Then ... Chaos Engine 2

I guess they had enough material for all the levels lying around that went unused for the main game? I found it a clever thing to not use material from the actual game for coverdisks, at least then the game you buy is 100% fresh and new. I don't know about other people but I used to replay coverdisks to bits...

Muzkat · 19 November 2018, 12:51

You've fused two of my favourite games together! Love your work!

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17 November 2018, 17:10	#27
Cherno Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dortmund, Germany Posts: 1,054	Looks like the character portraits are not visible in some resolutions It could also have something to do with the HUD scaling options. Also, if you are new to GZDoom, tinker with the graphic settings. I like the distance shadow set to "radial", for example.

17 November 2018, 17:30	#28
Nobby_UK Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,595	Tried GZDoom but it failed with: R_OPENGL: OpenGL driver not accelerated!

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jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	Could you remap Doom characters to Chaos Engine ?

17 November 2018, 20:08	#31
Qube Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England Posts: 218	Very cool Cherno, Will you be expanding this mod to include the other levels, e.g. Workshops? I was recently wondering myself whether it would be difficult to remake Chaos (or any classic isometric/overhead shooter) in GZDoom by doing it as 3rd person with the camera slightly elevated and behind, or even overhead perhaps with very high ceilings and an overhead viewpoint, that art by Antto Koponen certainly gives you food for thought. Other games that transitioned well to Doom are Hocus Pocus and Castlevania for those who aren't too familiar - https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=45804 and https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=57800. Anyway, keep up the good work! :-)

17 November 2018, 20:25	#32
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	I meant that as a joke. Playing 2D Chaos Engine with characters of Doom.

17 November 2018, 20:45	#34
Qube Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England Posts: 218	Sounds like a lot of work. Always did like the Workshops levels, I guess they felt like a true fit for that Victorian England feel and era. Shame the BB's never wanted to make a new CE using a modern game engine, e.g. UE4, but I guess the original team is no longer together these days. Good stuff! Q;

17 November 2018, 21:30	#35
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	shame that BB didn't release new level packs like they did with Cadaver, for other games like CE or Gods...

17 November 2018, 21:44	#36
Qube Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England Posts: 218	Yep and these games were popular, so they would have sold those quite well I'm sure. They could have also put out an Xmas special edition level via a magazine or something, those were always kind of fun for gamers at the end of a busy year. Good times! Q;

17 November 2018, 21:59	#37
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	We were really spoiled with Cadaver: 1 main game, 3 cover disks with 1 level each, and 4 new payoff levels. Then ... Chaos Engine 2

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Muzkat Into the Wonderful Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Earthrealm Age: 42 Posts: 1,426	You've fused two of my favourite games together! Love your work!

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