AKReal Support Thread - Page 34

Retrofan · 26 October 2016, 19:54

I don't know if it makes a difference running it from cli, it's made to run from the script, but as you can see or try, it doesn't happen running it normally.

demolition · 27 October 2016, 06:36

It seems to work when I run it from WB using the icon, so apparently there is a difference.

How about including PowerWindows in AKReal? I really like to have that feature.
http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/PowerWindowsNG

Retrofan · 27 October 2016, 10:13

Well, you can install whatever you like, but to start that install requires to patch the rom with BlizKick or other.

Also what do think if you read this in the readme?:

"-Remember. This is only version 1.2! ! ! Expect some bugs and crashes. "

I don't like bugs and crashes, do you?

demolition · 27 October 2016, 10:24

I have been using it for a while without any issues but you are right, the ROM update is not optimal as it makes it a lot more tricky to install. Can it not be patched through something like LoadModule or similar so that it only requires an update to SS?

Retrofan · 27 October 2016, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by demolition

I have been using it for a while without any issues but you are right, the ROM update is not optimal as it makes it a lot more tricky to install. Can it not be patched through something like LoadModule or similar so that it only requires an update to SS?

Sorry, no idea.

Well, to tell the truth my idea is that it can't be done with LoadModule or similar. I've seen some threads in the past about "AmiKit" trying to make something similar.

rayan259 · 05 November 2016, 07:51

Hi
I have a problem with rapid road usb in amikit 8.7
After install poseidonV4 in amikit rapid road usb Does not work properly & install complete but do not copy correctly files from poseidonv4 in amikit8.7 (I manually copied)! but work correctly in classic wb 3.9
Installed fat95 in L: but error again

Please help me
Sorry for english

rayan259 · 06 November 2016, 13:24

kens icons in the amikit 8.7 is 16 colours or 256 colours or 16k?

Retrofan · 06 November 2016, 15:24

Hi Rayan:

I've got Poseidon and the RapidRoad working perfect with my A1200 and AKReal. If you had any problem with the installation, run it again. You can download the file from here:

http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/RapidRoad#Software_download

But first make sure that RapidRoad is well connected to the clockport.
If you made the install manually you maybe missed to copy the file in the Startup-Sequence or the user-startup.

Run the Poseidon installer with the pendrive pluged in, it will detect it. When the installation finishes go to AmiKit:Prefs and open the Trident preferences. Save them and it will save the Psdstackloader file in Sys:Prefs/Env-Archive for the next booting.

The icons in a Full install of AKReal 8.7 are the original ones, so in the original TrueColor images format*. You can find in AmiKit:Tools, "Icons to 3.5 format" using a program by Thomas Rapp, and if you use it they will be faster in that format. To have icons using 16 colors (even faster) you need to download and install the "16 Colors Ken's icons set" from the site that will offer you two kind of icons or the possibility to restore the original ones:

http://real.amiga.sk/downloads.htm

*Most TrueColor icons, like Ken’s icons too, have 1000-2500 colors. Usually, these icons are 32 bit (4x8bit for RGBA or ARGB for OS4).

As a reference, the original Ken's icons can use about 9000 bytes, the icons in 3.5 format around 4000 and the 16 colors icons about 1800, just remembering.

rayan259 · 07 November 2016, 05:53

Thank you

Retrofan · 07 November 2016, 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayan259

Thank you

You are welcome

. I knew it would work as I tried it again to know what it needs/what it makes.

Edit: BTW here you've got two scripts to start or close Poseidon, attached. They are very useful

arti · 25 November 2016, 10:36

Hi Retrofan,
would it possible to add GUI skins for Non FPU cpus using Birdie etc. ?

Retrofan · 25 November 2016, 10:44

I already use the gui skins of birdie without FPU. It must be something of the Vampire you use. Try it on WinUAE and see how it works without FPU. I also use it with my ACA 30/56.

If it isn't working but not crashing your Vampire, try increasing the Wait for Birdie in the S-S. The Vampire boots extremely fast.

Here:

Code:

IF NOT EXISTS C:DisableBirdie
   C:Wait 1  ;prevents Birdie from not loading the background picture. 
   Run >NIL: SYS:Utilities/Expansion/Birdie/Birdie ? <Env:Birdie.prefs
ENDIF

And of course, if you've used the script in Tools called "Disable CGX_Aga&Birdie" now you can delete from C "DisableBirdie" or edit the S-S and comment the lines that prevent Birdie to work.

arti · 25 November 2016, 11:29

Awesome, will try. Thanks!

Retrofan · 11 December 2016, 12:48

I've made a video of the WIP showing ModExplorer and AGS2

[ Show youtube player ]

HanSolo · 11 December 2016, 16:04

How about to use this mouse pointer ?

Retrofan · 11 December 2016, 17:44

You already have two different ones in AKReal, you can find them in Sys:Prefs/Env-Archive/Sys/Pointers (AGA or RTG drawers). You only should sustitute the pointer.prefs in Sys:Prefs/Env-Archive/sys. Both work with AGA, but I prefer to use the one of the RTG drawer for RTG as some screenmodes there work better with that pointer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HanSolo

How about to use this mouse pointer ?

Thanks, but I don't see it so interesting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan

I've made a video of the WIP showing ModExplorer and AGS2

[ Show youtube player ]

Depeche72 · 16 December 2016, 01:52

Hi!
First of all I have to say I think Amikit Real is really great.
I am running it on a Amiga 1200.
Had 8.6 installed and it worked fine and used Genesis for network connection.
Upgraded to 8.7 and it was even better because I got more chip memory available with 8.7.
What I'm wondering now is if 8.7 is doing anything to Genesis because it doesn't work anymore.
It connects but I can't communicate with anything.
Works fine in 8.6.

Retrofan · 16 December 2016, 02:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Depeche72

Hi!
First of all I have to say I think Amikit Real is really great.
I am running it on a Amiga 1200.
Had 8.6 installed and it worked fine and used Genesis for network connection.
Upgraded to 8.7 and it was even better because I got more chip memory available with 8.7.
What I'm wondering now is if 8.7 is doing anything to Genesis because it doesn't work anymore.
It connects but I can't communicate with anything.
Works fine in 8.6.

Humm... I included Ken's icons for Genesis on 8.7. They may be interfering with your settings. I heard something related some days ago about BB4.

Just set again your internet settings with Genesis and try it. Please report if you find any problem.

Edit: Remember this (so important) about Genesis, as there were two editions of OS3.9: http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/internetapps.html#1

But now I don't think that's your problem. Maybe the icons info change some setting in your config, so as I say, try to set it again.

In any case, make a backup of the icons and run again the Genesis prefs. If they don't work, install again the pack from the OS3.9 internet pack and then using CopyIcon change the icons.

Please tell what works for you. I'm now thinking by your report and the things I've heard about BB4 to include the icons just in a drawer, but maybe it is just that you have to run the Genesis prefs as the first time, now that you have the new improved icons.

Depeche72 · 16 December 2016, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Humm... I included Ken's icons for Genesis on 8.7. They may be interfering with your settings. I heard something related some days ago about BB4.

Just set again your internet settings with Genesis and try it. Please report if you find any problem.

Edit: Remember this (so important) about Genesis, as there were two editions of OS3.9: http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/internetapps.html#1

But now I don't think that's your problem. Maybe the icons info change some setting in your config, so as I say, try to set it again.

In any case, make a backup of the icons and run again the Genesis prefs. If they don't work, install again the pack from the OS3.9 internet pack and then using CopyIcon change the icons.

Please tell what works for you. I'm now thinking by your report and the things I've heard about BB4 to include the icons just in a drawer, but maybe it is just that you have to run the Genesis prefs as the first time, now that you have the new improved icons.

I have tried to run the Genesis Wizard again and also Genesis prefs but it's the same problem.
I will try some more.
Maybe see if I can find Genesis on the OS3.9 CD and install it again if that's possible.

Retrofan · 17 December 2016, 00:34

Yes, you have an option with OS3.9 to install the internet software. Sorry, in my next update I will include the Ken's icons in a drawer.

Thanks a lot for telling, I actually only use RoadShow.

Edit: WIP 16C screenshot, but a fix has to be done in a program yet.

06 November 2016, 15:24	#668
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,195	Hi Rayan: I've got Poseidon and the RapidRoad working perfect with my A1200 and AKReal. If you had any problem with the installation, run it again. You can download the file from here: http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/RapidRoad#Software_download But first make sure that RapidRoad is well connected to the clockport. If you made the install manually you maybe missed to copy the file in the Startup-Sequence or the user-startup. Run the Poseidon installer with the pendrive pluged in, it will detect it. When the installation finishes go to AmiKit:Prefs and open the Trident preferences. Save them and it will save the Psdstackloader file in Sys:Prefs/Env-Archive for the next booting. The icons in a Full install of AKReal 8.7 are the original ones, so in the original TrueColor images format. You can find in AmiKit:Tools, "Icons to 3.5 format" using a program by Thomas Rapp, and if you use it they will be faster in that format. To have icons using 16 colors (even faster) you need to download and install the "16 Colors Ken's icons set" from the site that will offer you two kind of icons or the possibility to restore the original ones: http://real.amiga.sk/downloads.htm Most TrueColor icons, like Ken’s icons too, have 1000-2500 colors. Usually, these icons are 32 bit (4x8bit for RGBA or ARGB for OS4). As a reference, the original Ken's icons can use about 9000 bytes, the icons in 3.5 format around 4000 and the 16 colors icons about 1800, just remembering. Last edited by Retrofan; 09 November 2016 at 21:13.

25 November 2016, 10:44	#672
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,195	I already use the gui skins of birdie without FPU. It must be something of the Vampire you use. Try it on WinUAE and see how it works without FPU. I also use it with my ACA 30/56. If it isn't working but not crashing your Vampire, try increasing the Wait for Birdie in the S-S. The Vampire boots extremely fast. Here: Code: IF NOT EXISTS C:DisableBirdie C:Wait 1 ;prevents Birdie from not loading the background picture. Run >NIL: SYS:Utilities/Expansion/Birdie/Birdie ? <Env:Birdie.prefs ENDIF And of course, if you've used the script in Tools called "Disable CGX_Aga&Birdie" now you can delete from C "DisableBirdie" or edit the S-S and comment the lines that prevent Birdie to work. Last edited by Retrofan; 28 February 2017 at 04:57.

17 December 2016, 00:34	#680
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,195	Yes, you have an option with OS3.9 to install the internet software. Sorry, in my next update I will include the Ken's icons in a drawer. Thanks a lot for telling, I actually only use RoadShow. Edit: WIP 16C screenshot, but a fix has to be done in a program yet. Last edited by Retrofan; 17 December 2016 at 00:51.

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26 October 2016, 19:54	#661
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,195	I don't know if it makes a difference running it from cli, it's made to run from the script, but as you can see or try, it doesn't happen running it normally.

27 October 2016, 06:36	#662
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 44 Posts: 4,190	It seems to work when I run it from WB using the icon, so apparently there is a difference. How about including PowerWindows in AKReal? I really like to have that feature. http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/PowerWindowsNG

27 October 2016, 10:13	#663
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,195	Well, you can install whatever you like, but to start that install requires to patch the rom with BlizKick or other. Also what do think if you read this in the readme?: "-Remember. This is only version 1.2! ! ! Expect some bugs and crashes. " I don't like bugs and crashes, do you?

27 October 2016, 10:24	#664
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 44 Posts: 4,190	I have been using it for a while without any issues but you are right, the ROM update is not optimal as it makes it a lot more tricky to install. Can it not be patched through something like LoadModule or similar so that it only requires an update to SS?

05 November 2016, 07:51	#666
rayan259 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 24	Hi I have a problem with rapid road usb in amikit 8.7 After install poseidonV4 in amikit rapid road usb Does not work properly & install complete but do not copy correctly files from poseidonv4 in amikit8.7 (I manually copied)! but work correctly in classic wb 3.9 Installed fat95 in L: but error again Please help me Sorry for english

06 November 2016, 13:24	#667
rayan259 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 24	kens icons in the amikit 8.7 is 16 colours or 256 colours or 16k?

07 November 2016, 05:53	#669
rayan259 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 24	Thank you

25 November 2016, 10:36	#671
arti Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 663	Hi Retrofan, would it possible to add GUI skins for Non FPU cpus using Birdie etc. ?

25 November 2016, 11:29	#673
arti Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 663	Awesome, will try. Thanks!

11 December 2016, 12:48	#674
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,195	I've made a video of the WIP showing ModExplorer and AGS2 [ Show youtube player ]

16 December 2016, 01:52	#677
Depeche72 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Härnösand / Sweden Posts: 15	Hi! First of all I have to say I think Amikit Real is really great. I am running it on a Amiga 1200. Had 8.6 installed and it worked fine and used Genesis for network connection. Upgraded to 8.7 and it was even better because I got more chip memory available with 8.7. What I'm wondering now is if 8.7 is doing anything to Genesis because it doesn't work anymore. It connects but I can't communicate with anything. Works fine in 8.6.

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