03 July 2014, 22:46 | #21 |
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But this is there already.
I think there are 4 to 5 different 68K cores developed already. Some are faster some are slower. I think I know of 4 different AMIGA chipsets.. Some with AGA some without I think the code to put in the FPGA is there... |
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I would buy one of these that was AGA + 020 compatible but faster and with lots of RAM, in a heartbeat. I would like to design a case for one, A1200 style with built-in keyboard and slimline optical drive on the side
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I can't help to think though that there are a bunch of projects that are similar (Minimigs, FPGA-arcades, Chameleons, Natamis and all that) and in the end what happens is that people get demotivated and let the projects, unfortunately, rot. I think maybe this could be avoided if all the people interested in the platform would actually work together into one unified effort. There's lots of brilliant minds in the community to make something happen, but alone it's much harder. |
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I would preffer an accelerator&RTG for my A1200 than a complete "Pc" in a different case.
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You ask the key question. And I'm not sure about what is best for AMIGA. Dennis made the Minimig chipset. This was great work. The Minimig hardware is rather simple. If produced in numbers the Minimig could have been sold at Wallmart for $49 - and still with good profit. Why did this not happen? Can someone explain this? |
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Because the world moved on.
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^ This.
There is no next gen Amiga. There might be a niche product with an Amiga sticker on it, but there's already the X1000. Of course a cheaper alternative is welcome, but it'll hardly make an impact. Developers will go where the money is and the few that are 'believers' already have enough different 'Amiga' successors to deliver. Alll the best, but you'll hardly make an impact with any Amiga semi-compatible system. |
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The X1000 is not compatible but has an AMIGA sticker on it. The FPGA system on the other could be 100% compatible. |
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But then again emulators are too. You really think that a new system besides OS4 and MorphOS would get any new development going? How many systems do you think would sell? Even given a price of 100$ per system.
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Come on there is AROS too. Some people even think that AROS has the biggest potential of the three. AROS could run perfectly on this box. You would not only have the NEO AMIGA AROS - you could even run all old classic AMIGA games and software natively. |
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AROS runs on cheap PCs, so your point is rather moot.
You didn't answer my question though. I guess you are aware that this FPGA is another niche solution that will bring nothing new. Porting games from other platforms isn't going to get many new customers you see. You wanted to know why this won't sell at Walmart and I think we established why it won't. |
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I can say you why it has chances to sell... in opposite to your AmigaOS or MorphOS it has the "geek factor", it is special, interesting, different to a standard PC. And there are many people who remember amiga and might be tempted if it is cheap enough. Why sells the Raspberry? Not because of its hardware but because of the price. @Gunnar Big company investing sounds nice, do you have somebody interested or just theory? It would be great of course to have somebody again investing in the platform. Last edited by TCD; 04 July 2014 at 00:25. Reason: Back-to-back posts merged |
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The C64 Joystick was device which sold great. With a FPGA base system you could create both. An compatible classic AMIGA game system - which could sell in thousand at Walmart. And a system which could be use with original 68K software and AROS at the same time. You could use the free AROS as legal kickstart replacement and play games - you could ven use AROS with modern webbrowsers in such a system to surf the internet... Now tell us why should this not sell at Walmart? |
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Commodore was good in producing their system for little money and selling them for an affortable price. The A500 was good value for the money. The A1200 also was good value for the money. I miss this good value for the money. Could a good value for the money be produced again? What would it needed for this? |
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The only downside I see in the SoCkit board is the lack of HDMI - much as I don't want to see VGA disappear, it does seem to be on its way out now.
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http://www.altera.com/products/devki...gx_starter.jpg It costs 150€ but it has only 512 MB fastmem... Quote:
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