Requesting two games without R/W errors

andreas · 16 September 2001, 15:14

HI,

a second+third request from me, this time it's a VERY old game first:

1. the submarine game Up-Scope.

I could get a version from the Dream Zone, and from some other obscure place, and they were identical: cracked by THE CHAMPS. For the record, the CRC is 4c20bf3e. Both have the same R/W error, caused by a invalid checksum in Block 5.
I wouldn't dare change the checksum to a valid value, not in this case, because this is likely to break everything.

2. Barbarian (I) by PALACE (not the Psygnosis version, please check first!)

This game is quite common (CRC:ab43455a), however I haven't seen any game that did NOT have the R/W error, preventing the sound from playing.

Update! I just did it myself! I found a non-DEFJAM crack (somewhere ) and I just replaced the non-working files with the ones from the other disk! All files have been copied to a fresh disk again. --> ADF Zone

Thanks in advance.

andreas · 16 September 2001, 23:56

Who cracked it? DEFJAM too?

OK, if you find it, you may upload it.

However, Up-Scope is HIGH priority, because I didn't see a working version anywhere (yet).

18 September 2001, 00:03

ah. There's no speech in my version either

Everytime that frog dude comes on and takes away the body after getting a head chopped off, you're supposed to hear him laugh....At least that's how it is on the C64

Amiga1992 · 18 September 2001, 03:39

Sorry, I didnt check its CRC. You should have mentioned the samples, that could have saved me an upload!

I have dloaded your version, will check it out tomorrow (I left it at work)

andreas · 18 September 2001, 15:47

Whoa Akira....the thrill is getting higher and higher...can't wait for you to check out that big difference

Fred the Fop · 18 September 2001, 23:45

A nice development. Last night, I was playing Palace Barbarian..and no sound. I had the same version as you and Akira had problems with, Andreas.
Then I remembered that there was a game published by Palace(?) as well called Deathsword. I will upload when I get home.
I am not sure if Deathsword had the same problem.
here is a link to The Palace.de....

http://www.thelegacy.de/Museum/game.php3?game_id=1629

The screens are of the C 64 version, tho.
Also, on a side note, if anyone ever has had troubleplaying the Psygnosis version of Barbarian 1 in emulation, just ask for config, I got it working

Fred the Fop · 19 September 2001, 06:33

Well I uploaded Deathsword, Ian and Andreas..try it, I included a config that worked like a charm in 8.14 r1-3 and 8.17 r1.

Ian, keep pic

Amiga1992 · 19 September 2001, 18:21

What on earth? What versin of Barbarian is that, fred? I never knew the same game had other names!

Fred the Fop · 19 September 2001, 19:04

I have no idea, Akira, I just found this recently, i think from XT Power. How about you try it? I have uploaded this gem to the ADF zone.

CodyJarrett · 19 September 2001, 19:19

I think it's the American thing again. Marketing people like to be seen to actually do something, instead of lying all the time, so they do studies and conclude that games should have different names in different countries.

So, I think Barbarian is the European name and Death Sword is the US name.

Sometimes I cannot fathom why there was a name change. For example, Mindscape's snappy (but admitedly, unoriginal) name of Legend was changed to The Four Crystals Of Trazere in the US.

Same with Kult, which became Chambers Of The Psi-Mutant Priestess.

I sometimes miss films here in Paris because I don't recognise the film from the French title. Sometimes it's obvious: Edward Scissorhands becomes Edward Aux Mains D'Argent. Jaws is Les Dents.

Worst of all was The Madness Of King George film - the title was altered from the stage play name of something like The Madness Of King George III, because they thought people would question why they hadn't seen the first two films in the trilogy.

Amiga1992 · 19 September 2001, 19:37

Yes this is extremely stupid. Also teh compromises they use to take when converting, liek Brutal Sports Football being converetd onto CRazy Footbal and the blood taken out. Stupid censorship.

Nintendo of America likes to do this kind of shit a lot, that's why Im importing most fo my games from japan :P I want them untouched!

andreas · 03 October 2001, 23:36

I'm still looking for Up-Scope (that was the second one from above).

Anyone?
Thanks in advance.

commie1974 · 25 April 2015, 12:17

Digging out this ANCIENT topic, in order not to start a new one...

Has anybody got this one archived?

"Barbarian - The Ultimate Warrior (1987)(Palace Software)[cr Defjam][Fix Mitsaras & TITAN][t +2 Defjam].adf"

The fix was done looong ago by me and my french friend TITAN, AFAIR we played with the checksums of some sectors and the error disappeared, the sound was perfectly loading on this version!

I'm looking for this specific version but it doesn't seem to be available anywhere in the web...
I have the same problem as the topic starter, can't find an ADF without the nasty sound-messing r/w error and I'd also like to own again a piece of my old amiga work...

Apparently I have lost the real fixed disk that I owned once...
Anyone, please???

Belgarath · 25 April 2015, 15:09

I've zoned it for you.

commie1974 · 25 April 2015, 15:22

Thanks, Belgarath!!
You are very cool!!!!!

Arnie · 25 April 2015, 18:27

What was the problem with Up-Scope?

I have found 3 copies:

2 uncracked but one of them has [b] (bad dump)?
1 The Champs crack.

All three load, 2 report a disk error but load anyway.

In all 3 the playing screen is backwards, left to right?

EDIT: Both WHDLoad version work O.K

dirkies · 26 April 2015, 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

In all 3 the playing screen is backwards, left to right?

yes, but I always used a 90° inclined mirror to play this game back then because it created a cool illusion of depth which made it a lot more nice to play/watch. (Just as some arcade games do)
I thought it was done on purpose?

Belgarath · 26 April 2015, 10:06

After speaking with Cody it appears this game was more than likely an arcade game only http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_de...?game_id=10271
and the fact you view it through a periscope means like dirkies suggested, it was meant to be viewed in a mirror which is why the copies were always backwards.

16 September 2001, 15:14	#1
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Requesting two games without R/W errors HI, a second+third request from me, this time it's a VERY old game first: 1. the submarine game Up-Scope. I could get a version from the Dream Zone, and from some other obscure place, and they were identical: cracked by THE CHAMPS. For the record, the CRC is 4c20bf3e. Both have the same R/W error, caused by a invalid checksum in Block 5. I wouldn't dare change the checksum to a valid value, not in this case, because this is likely to break everything. 2. Barbarian (I) by PALACE (not the Psygnosis version, please check first!) This game is quite common (CRC:ab43455a), however I haven't seen any game that did NOT have the R/W error, preventing the sound from playing. Update! I just did it myself! I found a non-DEFJAM crack (somewhere ) and I just replaced the non-working files with the ones from the other disk! All files have been copied to a fresh disk again. --> ADF Zone Thanks in advance. Last edited by andreas; 16 September 2001 at 18:48.

19 September 2001, 06:33	#7
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	Well I uploaded Deathsword, Ian and Andreas..try it, I included a config that worked like a charm in 8.14 r1-3 and 8.17 r1. Ian, keep pic Last edited by Fred the Fop; 13 October 2001 at 08:10.

19 September 2001, 19:19	#10
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,166	US Thing I think it's the American thing again. Marketing people like to be seen to actually do something, instead of lying all the time, so they do studies and conclude that games should have different names in different countries. So, I think Barbarian is the European name and Death Sword is the US name. Sometimes I cannot fathom why there was a name change. For example, Mindscape's snappy (but admitedly, unoriginal) name of Legend was changed to The Four Crystals Of Trazere in the US. Same with Kult, which became Chambers Of The Psi-Mutant Priestess. I sometimes miss films here in Paris because I don't recognise the film from the French title. Sometimes it's obvious: Edward Scissorhands becomes Edward Aux Mains D'Argent. Jaws is Les Dents. Worst of all was The Madness Of King George film - the title was altered from the stage play name of something like The Madness Of King George III, because they thought people would question why they hadn't seen the first two films in the trilogy.

03 October 2001, 23:36	#12
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	I'm still looking for Up-Scope (that was the second one from above). Anyone? Thanks in advance. Last edited by andreas; 27 November 2003 at 05:11.

25 April 2015, 18:27	#16
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	What was the problem with Up-Scope? I have found 3 copies: 2 uncracked but one of them has [b] (bad dump)? 1 The Champs crack. All three load, 2 report a disk error but load anyway. In all 3 the playing screen is backwards, left to right? EDIT: Both WHDLoad version work O.K Last edited by Arnie; 25 April 2015 at 18:52.

16 September 2001, 23:56	#2
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Who cracked it? DEFJAM too? OK, if you find it, you may upload it. However, Up-Scope is HIGH priority, because I didn't see a working version anywhere (yet).

18 September 2001, 00:03	#3
Amigaboy Posts: n/a	ah. There's no speech in my version either Everytime that frog dude comes on and takes away the body after getting a head chopped off, you're supposed to hear him laugh....At least that's how it is on the C64

18 September 2001, 03:39	#4
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	Sorry, I didnt check its CRC. You should have mentioned the samples, that could have saved me an upload! I have dloaded your version, will check it out tomorrow (I left it at work)

18 September 2001, 15:47	#5
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Whoa Akira....the thrill is getting higher and higher...can't wait for you to check out that big difference

18 September 2001, 23:45	#6
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	A nice development. Last night, I was playing Palace Barbarian..and no sound. I had the same version as you and Akira had problems with, Andreas. Then I remembered that there was a game published by Palace(?) as well called Deathsword. I will upload when I get home. I am not sure if Deathsword had the same problem. here is a link to The Palace.de.... http://www.thelegacy.de/Museum/game.php3?game_id=1629 The screens are of the C 64 version, tho. Also, on a side note, if anyone ever has had troubleplaying the Psygnosis version of Barbarian 1 in emulation, just ask for config, I got it working

19 September 2001, 18:21	#8
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	What on earth? What versin of Barbarian is that, fred? I never knew the same game had other names!

19 September 2001, 19:04	#9
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	I have no idea, Akira, I just found this recently, i think from XT Power. How about you try it? I have uploaded this gem to the ADF zone.

19 September 2001, 19:37	#11
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	Yes this is extremely stupid. Also teh compromises they use to take when converting, liek Brutal Sports Football being converetd onto CRazy Footbal and the blood taken out. Stupid censorship. Nintendo of America likes to do this kind of shit a lot, that's why Im importing most fo my games from japan :P I want them untouched!

25 April 2015, 12:17	#13
commie1974 Amiga? What's that?!? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Piraeus-Greece Age: 50 Posts: 260	Digging out this ANCIENT topic, in order not to start a new one... Has anybody got this one archived? "Barbarian - The Ultimate Warrior (1987)(Palace Software)[cr Defjam][Fix Mitsaras & TITAN][t +2 Defjam].adf" The fix was done looong ago by me and my french friend TITAN, AFAIR we played with the checksums of some sectors and the error disappeared, the sound was perfectly loading on this version! I'm looking for this specific version but it doesn't seem to be available anywhere in the web... I have the same problem as the topic starter, can't find an ADF without the nasty sound-messing r/w error and I'd also like to own again a piece of my old amiga work... Apparently I have lost the real fixed disk that I owned once... Anyone, please???

25 April 2015, 15:09	#14
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,529	I've zoned it for you.

25 April 2015, 15:22	#15
commie1974 Amiga? What's that?!? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Piraeus-Greece Age: 50 Posts: 260	Thanks, Belgarath!! You are very cool!!!!!

26 April 2015, 10:06	#18
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,529	After speaking with Cody it appears this game was more than likely an arcade game only http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_de...?game_id=10271 and the fact you view it through a periscope means like dirkies suggested, it was meant to be viewed in a mirror which is why the copies were always backwards.

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