Mace vs. Black Tiger

Kodoichi · 20 July 2004, 08:27

Mace was released in 1988.

The arcade version of Black Tiger was released in 1989.

I couldn't have a closer look at Mace as I didn't find any ADF, but there seems to be a lot of similarities to Black Tiger - the snakes, the look of the hero...

Did Capcom steal the idea, did they buy a license, or is it just coincidence that both games look the same?

Could anybody provide an ADF of Mace?

Peanutuk · 20 July 2004, 09:33

I love that MACE cover

CodyJarrett · 20 July 2004, 10:33

Black Tiger was released in the arcades in 1987, a year before Mace.

Kodoichi · 20 July 2004, 10:42

O_o

Could you explain me then why it says 1990 in the year field, but in the title screen you can clearly see 1989?

CodyJarrett · 20 July 2004, 10:54

Check the arcade screenshot at the bottom of the HOL Black Tiger entry. It says (c) Capcom 1987.

The conversion to the Amiga was probably done in 1989 and the copyright date incorrectly labelled as 1989. It was then released on the Amiga in 1990 - in the UK at least, as magazines such as CU Amiga and Amiga Format reviewed it in that year.

Copyright dates are often not a good way to work out release dates, especially with multiple conversions of a game.

Belgarath · 20 July 2004, 12:58

Also if you look at the back of the box it clearly says 1990

DrBong · 23 July 2004, 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by CodyJarrett

The conversion to the Amiga was probably done in 1989 and the copyright date incorrectly labelled as 1989. It was then released on the Amiga in 1990 - in the UK at least, as magazines such as CU Amiga and Amiga Format reviewed it in that year.

I doubt the copyright date was incorrectly labelled. U.S. Gold probably secured the license from Capcom to make computer conversions in 1989 or started work on the Amiga conversion in 1989. No doubt applying copyright in 1989 was a means of protecting against blatant Black Tiger rip-offs like Mace being released by other companies, whilst coding of the official conversion was being worked on (remember R-Type vs Katakis).

NfernalNfluence · 09 May 2007, 15:47

can somebody upload a copy of this to the zone? Mace, that is

Ultron · 09 May 2007, 18:40

Quite amazing but Black Tiger Amiga version looks better than the Arcade one?

CHook/OTT · 09 May 2007, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultron

Quite amazing but Black Tiger Amiga version looks better than the Arcade one?

Such a shame it's a piss poor conversion

I loved the arcade version of BT

DamienD · 09 May 2007, 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHook/OTT

I loved the arcade version of BT

Me too

turrican3 · 09 May 2007, 20:18

where can we found mace? never saw this game before

CHook/OTT · 09 May 2007, 20:19

I am guilty of firing BT up on MAME every now and again but i always get wasted at the level 4 boss

DamienD · 09 May 2007, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by NfernalNfluence

can somebody upload a copy of this to the zone? Mace, that is

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

where can we found mace? never saw this game before

Unfortunately I don't have this in my collection

Maybe Adderly, andreas, bippym, or some other Tosec / Non Tosec collector does?

Dizzy · 09 May 2007, 20:27

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Originally Posted by DamienD

Me too

yes and me too

BT kick ducks

DamienD · 09 May 2007, 20:47

Hmmm, just searched through "Commodore Amiga - Games - [ADF] (TOSEC-v2006-10-19_CM).dat" and Mace isn't in there...

I wonder where HOL got those screenshots from?

Retro-Nerd · 09 May 2007, 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Hmmm, just searched through "Commodore Amiga - Games - [ADF] (TOSEC-v2006-10-19_CM).dat" and Mace isn't in there...

I wonder where HOL got those screenshots from?

At least CFOU! own it, he works on a WHDLoad slave.

Quote:

MACE (Downunder Software), 80% 2.11.2006 CFOU!

turrican3 · 09 May 2007, 21:13

thank you everybody and let's go cfou!

turrican3 · 13 June 2008, 02:59

please cfou! upload mace, i can't find it !!!!

DrBong · 13 June 2008, 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

please cfou! upload mace, i can't find it !!!!

Playing this game will give you something to cry about and a reason to smash your computer

You've been warned!

In the Zone.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Hmmm, just searched through "Commodore Amiga - Games - [ADF] (TOSEC-v2006-10-19_CM).dat" and Mace isn't in there...

I wonder where HOL got those screenshots from?

Only the shadow knows!

20 July 2004, 08:27	#1
Kodoichi Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: I'm the smiling face on your TV, I exploit you still you love me Posts: 515	Mace vs. Black Tiger Mace was released in 1988. The arcade version of Black Tiger was released in 1989. I couldn't have a closer look at Mace as I didn't find any ADF, but there seems to be a lot of similarities to Black Tiger - the snakes, the look of the hero... Did Capcom steal the idea, did they buy a license, or is it just coincidence that both games look the same? Could anybody provide an ADF of Mace?

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Kodoichi Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: I'm the smiling face on your TV, I exploit you still you love me Posts: 515	O_o Could you explain me then why it says 1990 in the year field, but in the title screen you can clearly see 1989?

20 July 2004, 10:54	#5
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,161	Check the arcade screenshot at the bottom of the HOL Black Tiger entry. It says (c) Capcom 1987. The conversion to the Amiga was probably done in 1989 and the copyright date incorrectly labelled as 1989. It was then released on the Amiga in 1990 - in the UK at least, as magazines such as CU Amiga and Amiga Format reviewed it in that year. Copyright dates are often not a good way to work out release dates, especially with multiple conversions of a game.

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