Targhan - PC Hits and Triple Action Vol 3 versions need 1mb CHIP?

BarryB · 23 February 2019, 17:08

So, I have 4 releases of Targhan:

Gainstar Boxed - Disk/Manual protection
Action Sixteen Jewel Case - Disk protection only
PC Hits Boxed - No Manual/Disk protection
Triple Action Vol 3 Compilation Boxed - No Manual/Disk protection

Made IPF's with Disk-Utilities of all 4 releases!

Both the Gainstar/Action Sixteen releases work in WinUAE with 512kb Chip RAM or 512kb chip + 512kb Slow RAM!

However, both the PC Hits/Triple Action versions only load with 1mb chip, if any Slow Ram is used it guru's

Anyone know why this would happen?

Both versions also have no Silmarils logo or a title screen, just shows a graphic 'TARGHAN' while loading!

Seiya · 23 February 2019, 20:58

i have the version that run only with 1 MB chip ram, but i don't know what release is

BarryB · 23 February 2019, 21:58

If it only has one loading screen that says 'TARGHAN' probably the PC Hits version or the same version included in one of the compilations listed on HOL:

Hits For Six Volume 8
Action Pack (Action Sixteen)
Sword And Magic
Triple Action Volume 3
Raiders, The

Just seems strange it won't run on 512kb Amigas or with a memory expansion, yet the original release does!

Note: Just seen the box for the PC Hits version and it says 'Fully Amiga 1200 Compatible' so I'm wondering if they tweaked it to load on an unexpanded A1200 and broke compatibilty with 512kb Amigas? Yet, the retail release and Action Sixteen releases work fine on an unexpanded A1200 config in WinUAE?

Galahad/FLT · 23 February 2019, 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

If it only has one loading screen that says 'TARGHAN' probably the PC Hits version or the same version included in one of the compilations listed on HOL:

Hits For Six Volume 8
Action Pack (Action Sixteen)
Sword And Magic
Triple Action Volume 3
Raiders, The

Just seems strange it won't run on 512kb Amigas or with a memory expansion, yet the original release does!

Chuck it in the zone, lets have a look

BarryB · 23 February 2019, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Chuck it in the zone, lets have a look

Uploaded both dumps as CT RAW images!

Seiya · 24 February 2019, 14:49

however i've tried on WinUAE. guru with 512k only and 512k +512k.
my game load with "Silmarils" logo and the "thargan welcome screen".

BarryB · 24 February 2019, 16:46

I've not seen the 'Targhan Welcome' screen, unless you mean this one:

Both of the versions I have that show the Silmarils logo also work with 512kb chip only, 512kb chip + 512kb slow, KS1.2/1.3 and OCS/ECS.

Another difference I noticed is the Gainstar/PC Hits/Triple Action versions need the Space Bar pressed to start a new game yet the Action Sixteen version needs the ? key pressing!

Seiya · 24 February 2019, 19:11

yes, is this screen that i have after Silmarils logo. for start, i tried space bar after logo and mouse button to start, but i think it is ok also with joystick button

BarryB · 24 February 2019, 21:15

None of my versions allow mouse/joystick button to start the game, not even to get past the Silmarils logo!

Retro-Nerd · 24 February 2019, 21:26

Happens here too in WinUAE 512KB Chip/Slow, only DF0 enabled. Game hangs at the Targhan logo screen. 1 MB Chip is fine.

Don_Adan · 24 February 2019, 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

None of my versions allow mouse/joystick button to start the game, not even to get past the Silmarils logo!

How looks startup-sequence? Only "t.x"? If i remember right some old Silmarils games works in slow motion with slowfast. I added "run nofastmem" to my versions of s-s. 0.5M chip is ok to all old Silmarils games.

BarryB · 25 February 2019, 01:12

Yes, all my versions only have t.x in s-s.

23 February 2019, 17:08	#1
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,725	Targhan - PC Hits and Triple Action Vol 3 versions need 1mb CHIP? So, I have 4 releases of Targhan: Gainstar Boxed - Disk/Manual protection Action Sixteen Jewel Case - Disk protection only PC Hits Boxed - No Manual/Disk protection Triple Action Vol 3 Compilation Boxed - No Manual/Disk protection Made IPF's with Disk-Utilities of all 4 releases! Both the Gainstar/Action Sixteen releases work in WinUAE with 512kb Chip RAM or 512kb chip + 512kb Slow RAM! However, both the PC Hits/Triple Action versions only load with 1mb chip, if any Slow Ram is used it guru's Anyone know why this would happen? Both versions also have no Silmarils logo or a title screen, just shows a graphic 'TARGHAN' while loading!

23 February 2019, 21:58	#3
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,725	If it only has one loading screen that says 'TARGHAN' probably the PC Hits version or the same version included in one of the compilations listed on HOL: Hits For Six Volume 8 Action Pack (Action Sixteen) Sword And Magic Triple Action Volume 3 Raiders, The Just seems strange it won't run on 512kb Amigas or with a memory expansion, yet the original release does! Note: Just seen the box for the PC Hits version and it says 'Fully Amiga 1200 Compatible' so I'm wondering if they tweaked it to load on an unexpanded A1200 and broke compatibilty with 512kb Amigas? Yet, the retail release and Action Sixteen releases work fine on an unexpanded A1200 config in WinUAE? Last edited by BarryB; 23 February 2019 at 22:13.

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23 February 2019, 20:58	#2
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,389	i have the version that run only with 1 MB chip ram, but i don't know what release is

24 February 2019, 14:49	#6
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,389	however i've tried on WinUAE. guru with 512k only and 512k +512k. my game load with "Silmarils" logo and the "thargan welcome screen".

24 February 2019, 16:46	#7
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,725	I've not seen the 'Targhan Welcome' screen, unless you mean this one: Both of the versions I have that show the Silmarils logo also work with 512kb chip only, 512kb chip + 512kb slow, KS1.2/1.3 and OCS/ECS. Another difference I noticed is the Gainstar/PC Hits/Triple Action versions need the Space Bar pressed to start a new game yet the Action Sixteen version needs the ? key pressing!

24 February 2019, 19:11	#8
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,389	yes, is this screen that i have after Silmarils logo. for start, i tried space bar after logo and mouse button to start, but i think it is ok also with joystick button

24 February 2019, 21:15	#9
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,725	None of my versions allow mouse/joystick button to start the game, not even to get past the Silmarils logo!

24 February 2019, 21:26	#10
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	Happens here too in WinUAE 512KB Chip/Slow, only DF0 enabled. Game hangs at the Targhan logo screen. 1 MB Chip is fine.

25 February 2019, 01:12	#12
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,725	Yes, all my versions only have t.x in s-s.

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