Hark! A TOSEC mistake be revealed.

MethodGit · 08 October 2010, 23:31

Was doing some intensive examining work with the Brian the Lion ADFs when I noticed a perculiarity in the process.

It seems this seemingly innocent little tyke:

Code:

Brian the Lion (1994)(Psygnosis)(Disk 3 of 3).adf

...is in fact a Ports of Call disk. No, really.

Two things you should know:

1) There appear to be a lot of disk block errors.
2) It doesn't match any of the PoC ADFs in the current TOSEC.

So come on, who wishes to own up?

mai · 09 October 2010, 10:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by MethodGit

Was doing some intensive examining work with the Brian the Lion ADFs when I noticed a perculiarity in the process.

It seems this seemingly innocent little tyke:

Code:

Brian the Lion (1994)(Psygnosis)(Disk 3 of 3).adf

...is in fact a Ports of Call disk. No, really.

Two things you should know:

1) There appear to be a lot of disk block errors.
2) It doesn't match any of the PoC ADFs in the current TOSEC.

So come on, who wishes to own up?

Thanks, i will fix it, its not the first Cuckoo's Egg.

mai · 09 October 2010, 13:08

This is such a disk, which i would remove from TOSEC.(but i can not)
You really dont know, if it should be a "Brian" disk or a "POC" disk.
Anyway the disk get [b] flag.

MethodGit · 18 October 2010, 19:41

Don't much feel like making another thread, so I thought I should discuss another disk also...

Code:

Captain Dynamo (1992-07-17)(Codemasters).adf

This is exactly what it claims to be of course

, but it's an uncracked ADF meaning that the "ring this number and get an unlock code" screen will pop up. Perhaps there should be a tag to inform people of this? Not sure what would be best mind you.

Funnily enough, I'm wondering if this is the same ADF (as well as the James Pond beta) that I contributed on this very board almost a decade ago.

MethodGit · 26 October 2010, 05:17

What's that, Lassie? Another case of mistaken identity? Oh, the humanity!

Code:

Blastar (1993)(Core)(Disk 3 of 3)[cr FLT].adf

This certainly looks nothing like a Blastar disk. I couldn't tell what it was straight away, so decided to WRip and decrunch the contents and determine its true identity from there. And I can proudly inform you that it's a Woody's World disk. Possibly the missing third disk of the PDX crack? Haven't really played the game to confirm as such.

While we're on the subject of Blastar...

Code:

Blastar (1993)(Core)(Disk 2 of 3)[cr Triton].adf

This looks more like a Disk 3 to me, if what I see in a hex editor is correct.
But then that leaves one wondering where the second disk for the Triton crack could be...

andreas · 26 October 2010, 17:18

ad "Captain Dynamo":

if the [cr] tag is missing (like here), it MAY be assumed it's a version featuring a protection which needs some additional resources to bypass: code lists, code wheel, original manual, ... and the like.
The name is fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MethodGit

But then that leaves one wondering where the second disk for the Triton crack could be...

It might be untampered and thus identical to disk 2 from another crack. "Crack" doesn't imply by 100% that EACH disk of the set had to be tampered with; it often happens, that one of the disks is completely unchanged.
To prove this, see certain "disk 2"'s and "disk 3"'s of IPF releases which turned out to exactly match those of TOSEC "crack" sets.

MethodGit · 26 October 2010, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreas

ad "Captain Dynamo":

if the [cr] tag is missing (like here), it MAY be assumed it's a version featuring a protection which needs some additional resources to bypass: code lists, code wheel, original manual, ... and the like.
The name is fine.

Some ADFs however do use a unique tag to determine whether manual or codewheel protection still exists on them, like "[cp manual code]".

Quote:

It might be untampered and thus identical to disk 2 from another crack. "Crack" doesn't imply by 100% that EACH disk of the set had to be tampered with; it often happens, that one of the disks is completely unchanged.
To prove this, see certain "disk 2"'s and "disk 3"'s of IPF releases which turned out to exactly match those of TOSEC "crack" sets.

Interesting advice, andreas. But don't forget that each Blastar disk showcases a unique ID ("BLASTARxB") inside the header of each ADF image, hence how I was able to determine which disk was which.

MethodGit · 31 October 2010, 02:13

Looked at the Blastar/Woody's World disk again, and after comparing with the Woody's World disks currently on TOSEC, I'm now convinced that this is in fact the third disk for the Paradox crack of WW. Glad I could solve another case.

08 October 2010, 23:31	#1
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 40 Posts: 2,731	Hark! A TOSEC mistake be revealed. Was doing some intensive examining work with the Brian the Lion ADFs when I noticed a perculiarity in the process. It seems this seemingly innocent little tyke: Code: Brian the Lion (1994)(Psygnosis)(Disk 3 of 3).adf ...is in fact a Ports of Call disk. No, really. Two things you should know: 1) There appear to be a lot of disk block errors. 2) It doesn't match any of the PoC ADFs in the current TOSEC. So come on, who wishes to own up?

18 October 2010, 19:41	#4
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 40 Posts: 2,731	Don't much feel like making another thread, so I thought I should discuss another disk also... Code: Captain Dynamo (1992-07-17)(Codemasters).adf This is exactly what it claims to be of course , but it's an uncracked ADF meaning that the "ring this number and get an unlock code" screen will pop up. Perhaps there should be a tag to inform people of this? Not sure what would be best mind you. Funnily enough, I'm wondering if this is the same ADF (as well as the James Pond beta) that I contributed on this very board almost a decade ago.

26 October 2010, 05:17	#5
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 40 Posts: 2,731	What's that, Lassie? Another case of mistaken identity? Oh, the humanity! Code: Blastar (1993)(Core)(Disk 3 of 3)[cr FLT].adf This certainly looks nothing like a Blastar disk. I couldn't tell what it was straight away, so decided to WRip and decrunch the contents and determine its true identity from there. And I can proudly inform you that it's a Woody's World disk. Possibly the missing third disk of the PDX crack? Haven't really played the game to confirm as such. While we're on the subject of Blastar... Code: Blastar (1993)(Core)(Disk 2 of 3)[cr Triton].adf This looks more like a Disk 3 to me, if what I see in a hex editor is correct. But then that leaves one wondering where the second disk for the Triton crack could be...

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09 October 2010, 13:08	#3
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	This is such a disk, which i would remove from TOSEC.(but i can not) You really dont know, if it should be a "Brian" disk or a "POC" disk. Anyway the disk get [b] flag.

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MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 40 Posts: 2,731	Looked at the Blastar/Woody's World disk again, and after comparing with the Woody's World disks currently on TOSEC, I'm now convinced that this is in fact the third disk for the Paradox crack of WW. Glad I could solve another case.

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