Self booting hard drives and additonal kickroms

bugsymalone666 · 11 December 2014, 13:49

Ok following on from my various other threads, with the amiga and its kickstart/workbench configuration, naturally you have a kickstart chip then a workbench.

So with a self booting hard drive, I presume it looks for a diskette then a hard drive to boot from?

I was under the impression you can get diskette roms too so you can boot a newer rom on an older machine (eg boot 2.04 on a 1.2 machine) can you do this 3.1?

Currently I have a 2.05 amiga 600 rom in my A500, I have an external hard drive and a raspberry pi replacement drive, so it autoboots to the pi drive first, I select a diskette (normally and ADF file) and click go, it reboots the machine with a 'disk' in the drive and loads that. In the instance of having a hard drive too, I wondered if it might be possible to have a 3.1 boot disk, so that when it reboots it just boots to the hard drive to a workbench 3.1 install, even though I dont have a 3.1 real rom in place?

I am reluctant to spend too much money if honest, so I dont really want to go buy 3.1 roms when they can be found online.

Jope · 11 December 2014, 18:29

Yes, you can soft kick 3.1. Get the skick package from Aminet. Mkick or zkick for a 1.3 machine.

Why would you load the soft kick off the floppy though if you already have hard disks.

bugsymalone666 · 11 December 2014, 19:26

Well I was under the impression that if I wanted workbench 3.1 on my harddrive I'd have to boot from a 3.1 rom? Hench why I was asking the question really as my machine only has 2.05rom and I dont want to spend more on other roms.

Jope · 11 December 2014, 19:28

Well, you can boot using the physical 2.05 or 1.3 ROM, and have the softkick as the first command in your startup-sequence. Then the machine will load the kickstart off the hd, reboot, then boot again into 3.1.

Arnie · 11 December 2014, 21:17

You can boot a 3.1 install with ks2.05 but you cant use the 3.1 installer to install it with ks2.05. You would have to Install it manually or probably use WinUAE.

Jope · 11 December 2014, 21:20

Why not softkick the 3.1 ROM first from floppy, then install WB 3.1? :-D

After the WB is installed, you can copy the softkicker tool + the kickstart image to the HD.

Arnie · 11 December 2014, 21:28

I don't actually know whether it's going to be possible to softkick to 3.1. It seems to depend on the MB revision.

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=937

11 December 2014, 13:49	#1
bugsymalone666 Amiga baby yeah! Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 108	Self booting hard drives and additonal kickroms Ok following on from my various other threads, with the amiga and its kickstart/workbench configuration, naturally you have a kickstart chip then a workbench. So with a self booting hard drive, I presume it looks for a diskette then a hard drive to boot from? I was under the impression you can get diskette roms too so you can boot a newer rom on an older machine (eg boot 2.04 on a 1.2 machine) can you do this 3.1? Currently I have a 2.05 amiga 600 rom in my A500, I have an external hard drive and a raspberry pi replacement drive, so it autoboots to the pi drive first, I select a diskette (normally and ADF file) and click go, it reboots the machine with a 'disk' in the drive and loads that. In the instance of having a hard drive too, I wondered if it might be possible to have a 3.1 boot disk, so that when it reboots it just boots to the hard drive to a workbench 3.1 install, even though I dont have a 3.1 real rom in place? I am reluctant to spend too much money if honest, so I dont really want to go buy 3.1 roms when they can be found online.

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11 December 2014, 18:29	#2
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,877	Yes, you can soft kick 3.1. Get the skick package from Aminet. Mkick or zkick for a 1.3 machine. Why would you load the soft kick off the floppy though if you already have hard disks.

11 December 2014, 19:26	#3
bugsymalone666 Amiga baby yeah! Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 108	Well I was under the impression that if I wanted workbench 3.1 on my harddrive I'd have to boot from a 3.1 rom? Hench why I was asking the question really as my machine only has 2.05rom and I dont want to spend more on other roms.

11 December 2014, 19:28	#4
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,877	Well, you can boot using the physical 2.05 or 1.3 ROM, and have the softkick as the first command in your startup-sequence. Then the machine will load the kickstart off the hd, reboot, then boot again into 3.1.

11 December 2014, 21:17	#5
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	You can boot a 3.1 install with ks2.05 but you cant use the 3.1 installer to install it with ks2.05. You would have to Install it manually or probably use WinUAE.

11 December 2014, 21:20	#6
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,877	Why not softkick the 3.1 ROM first from floppy, then install WB 3.1? :-D After the WB is installed, you can copy the softkicker tool + the kickstart image to the HD.

11 December 2014, 21:28	#7
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	I don't actually know whether it's going to be possible to softkick to 3.1. It seems to depend on the MB revision. http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=937

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