Gmail on A500+ WB3.1?

Starglider 2 · 17 February 2016, 03:21

What program would you personally recommend for accessing Gmail or POP3/IMAP/SMTP on a WB 3.1 A500+ with Plipbox & Roadshow, assuming that's possible?

Email was invented 13 years before the Amiga so it should be, right? 😉

Don_Adan · 17 February 2016, 03:57

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Originally Posted by Starglider 2

What program would you personally recommend for accessing Gmail or POP3/IMAP/SMTP on a WB 3.1 A500+ with Plipbox & Roadshow, assuming that's possible?

Email was invented 13 years before the Amiga so it should be, right? 😉

Only YAM 1.3.3, but only POP3 and SMTP. No IMAP and SMTP-AUTH, exactly you can download emails, but you can not send emails. Sending mails its possible, if you have access to SMTP server without authentication.

Starglider 2 · 17 February 2016, 04:15

Thanks. Would anyone happen to have a screenshot of what email on Yam 1.3.3 on an A500+ looks like?

Starglider 2 · 18 February 2016, 09:12

Like, is it CLI based, or is it still in a GUI?

Mainly I want to try this, just because "we can". If we can...

Don_Adan · 18 February 2016, 14:07

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Originally Posted by Starglider 2

Like, is it CLI based, or is it still in a GUI?

Mainly I want to try this, just because "we can". If we can...

YAM has GUI:
http://aminet.net/package/comm/yam/YAM13_5

SkulleateR · 18 February 2016, 14:09

And here´s a screenshot of it just found on google

clebin · 18 February 2016, 14:35

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Originally Posted by Don_Adan

YAM has GUI:
http://aminet.net/package/comm/yam/YAM13_5

That's an ancient version. The latest is on the Yam website:
https://yam.ch

Also look at SimpleMail which is similar but does IMAP as well as POP3:

http://simplemail.sourceforge.net

Don_Adan · 18 February 2016, 15:26

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Originally Posted by clebin

That's an ancient version. The latest is on the Yam website:
https://yam.ch

Also look at SimpleMail which is similar but does IMAP as well as POP3:

http://simplemail.sourceforge.net

YAM version higher than 1.3.5 doesnt works for 68000 (A500+). Latest YAM versions are almost useless for real Amiga. YAM 1.3.5 is the best YAM version for Amiga, only missing SMTP-AUTH option.

zipper · 18 February 2016, 15:28

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Originally Posted by clebin

That's an ancient version. The latest is on the Yam website:
https://yam.ch

Doesn't help much on A500+ as it is 020+ only...
well, too slow...

clebin · 18 February 2016, 15:40

@Don_Adan, zipper

Bugger, my mistake. Apologies.

nogginthenog · 18 February 2016, 19:47

Back in the day I used Thor on my A500. Used it for reading email and newsgroups.

This is the best screenshot I can find:

idrougge · 19 February 2016, 00:03

Thor is bloody brilliant, but possibly overkill for just reading mail.

Starglider 2 · 20 February 2016, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

YAM 1.3.5 is the best YAM version for Amiga, only missing SMTP-AUTH option.

Does that mean that with modern email servers I wouldn't be able to send mail at all? Or can it support some forms of password protected SMTP? SSL?

Don_Adan · 20 February 2016, 22:19

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Originally Posted by Starglider 2

Does that mean that with modern email servers I wouldn't be able to send mail at all? Or can it support some forms of password protected SMTP? SSL?

Perhaps all (?) "modern" email serwers need SMTP-AUTH and SSL for sending mails. YAM 1.3.x is over 20 years old mailer, only SMTP is supported. Some email serwers has support to POP3 as SMTP-AUTH, exactly you must press "Get mail" before "Send mail". You can try to use YAM 2.7 (within SSL and SMTP-AUTH), but it needs 68020+ CPU, and perhaps 8MB fast can be not enough.

Starglider 2 · 20 February 2016, 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

Some email serwers has support to POP3 as SMTP-AUTH, exactly you must press "Get mail" before "Send mail".

Is that a workaround that will solve the problem? Any idea what it's called so I can ask my hosting company?

Don_Adan · 20 February 2016, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starglider 2

Is that a workaround that will solve the problem? Any idea what it's called so I can ask my hosting company?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/POP_before_SMTP

nogginthenog · 21 February 2016, 15:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

Perhaps all (?) "modern" email serwers need SMTP-AUTH and SSL for sending mails. YAM 1.3.x is over 20 years old mailer, only SMTP is supported. Some email serwers has support to POP3 as SMTP-AUTH, exactly you must press "Get mail" before "Send mail". You can try to use YAM 2.7 (within SSL and SMTP-AUTH), but it needs 68020+ CPU, and perhaps 8MB fast can be not enough.

I've definitely seen SMTP servers recently that don't need SSL. Crazy really as your password is sent as clear text.

Starglider 2 · 21 February 2016, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/POP_before_SMTP

Unfortunately my provider doesn't support POP before SMTP due to spammers.

I need a solution that supports SMTP Auth.

Starglider 2 · 22 February 2016, 01:18

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Originally Posted by nogginthenog

I've definitely seen SMTP servers recently that don't need SSL. Crazy really as your password is sent as clear text.

Could you point me in the direction of such server please?

nogginthenog · 22 February 2016, 16:58

Normally you can only use your ISPs or providers SMTP server.
I know the hosting provider "1&1" has optional SSL.

We used to use 1&1 at work but moved to Office 365 (which does not support non-ssl).

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