Vermillion's list

OK I've raided my shed and here is a list of the boxes and contents that are still in a scannable state (no software though I'm afraid )...give us a shout if any are needed

Action Service uploaded

Addams Family box & man bad condition...request if needed

Arctic Fox uploaded

Barbarian (Psygnosis) uploaded

Civilization
manual
technical supplement
warranties
board game order form
All good condition

Drakkhen
manual
All good condition

Dune II
manual
All good condition

Eye Of The Beholder II
manual
data card
SSI 1992 catalog
Box has perished edges..but very fixable as all edges are black

F-15 Strike Eagle II
manual
all 4 full colour maps
keyboard controls & hud display
technical supplement
additional technical information
All good condition

F-16 Combat Pilot
manual
f-16 combat pilot "kneepad"
Manual has outer page missing
Box has perished edges...but again very fixable

Ishido
manual
story
codewheel
proof of purchase
Inner box has perished edges - again fixable black

It Came From The Desert: uploaded

Jump Jet
manual
All good condition

Midwinter II uploaded (90meg!)

Millenium 2.2 uploaded

Ooze
diary
warranty & competition
All good condition

PGA Tour Golf
command summary card
registration
electronic arts promo
All good condition

Pool Of Radiance
adventurer's journal
special offer card
All good condition

RBI Baseball 2
manual
All good condition

Secret Of Monkey Island
manual
All good condition

Silent Service
tactical operations manual
All good condition

Sim City
user documentation
all time high scores (protection)
system card
zone evolution & user reference
upgrade/terrain editor order form & competition
All good condition

Skyfox uploaded

Space Quest III uploaded

Surgeon, The
Manual only

TV Sports Basketball
manual
registration card + cinemaware treasure ticket
All good condition

Warhead
questionare
revell competition form
piracy warning
All good condition

Wishbringer
manual inbuilt to box
reference card
warranty & hintbook orders
colour map
wishbringer stone (scanning this should be fun..)
All good condition

Wonderland
manual
warranty
Box is badly damaged I'm afraid


OK Some further pillaging of the shed have revealed some shiny books n' things :

Chaos Strikes Back adventurer's handbook - 93 pages
Eye Of The Beholder clue book - 77 pages
Eye Of The Beholder II clue book - 76 pages
F/A-18 Interceptor codewheel
Immortal clue book - 54 pages
Kings Quest original story booklet - 14 pages
King's Quest 4 hint book - 48 pages
Might And Magic III clue book - 242 pages!
Realms Of Arkania clue book - 126 pages
Secret Of Monkey Island hint book - 64 pages
Space Quest 3 hint book - uploaded
Ultima: The Second Trilogy - full colour map

[IFW]

Do you have the complete packages or just the boxes?
If complete, than all of them would be nice

Actually the two Blitz versions are not needed, unless we can't find a retail package of them or the budget versions have significant differences - unlikely on those titles.

Before you turn your scanner on:
http://www.caps-project.org/scanning.shtml

Please consult with Fiath about the details and the prefererred order of scans, since some games here have huge manuals.

[Twistin'Ghost]

On the subject of budget games, CAPS will want to make a point to grab the Hit Squad Platinum Edition releases (ie, Wing Commander, Robocop 3, etc.) as those really were remastered with various fixes or enhancements. But I am sure you already know this.

[AmiGer]

Originally posted by VermillioN
OK I've raided my shed and here is a list of the boxes that are still in a scannable state...give us a shout if any are needed

...
Midwinter II
Millenium 2.2
...

I would wish me these two great things...

[fiath]

VermillioN: How about starting with "It Came From The Desert" since it is on the release list. Once we have done that, we can decide on what others to do. Thanks!

TG: Well, I didn't know that - thanks for the info! Is that the version of Robocop 3 without the dongle? BTW - Do you know if there are any enhancements to the box/manual? When IFW was talking about not bothering with the budget versions, I believe he was talking about the packaging. As you probably know better than I, many budget versions have bug fixes etc. which would be a shame to go un-preserved.

AmiGer: Have you seen the size of the package for Midwinter II ? It contains bloody books! Probably will be the first CAPS release over 20Gb.

[AmiGer]

Originally posted by fiath

AmiGer: Have you seen the size of the package for Midwinter II ? It contains bloody books! Probably will be the first CAPS release over 20Gb.

Ahem...
Maybe you can adjust your scanning rules and produce smaller png-files like these wallpapers...

[IFW]

Originally posted by AmiGer
I would wish me these two great things...

Just wish that VermillioN can scan it completely - it is all the wish you'll ever need - the rest is magic

[fiath]

Originally posted by AmiGer
Ahem...
Maybe you can adjust your scanning rules and produce smaller png-files like these wallpapers...

I was just kidding. At a very rough estimate, Midwinder II would probably be around 50Mb. Perhaps 100Mb at the very most.

But no, we won't change the scan quality. Why should we "punish" the developers of a game, just because they went to the bother of doing a really great package?

If the release is big, it is big. It won't matter much in 10-20 years, so we may as well do it properly now.

[IFW]

Originally posted by fiath
When IFW was talking about not bothering with the budget versions, I believe he was talking about the packaging.
As you probably know better than I, many budget versions have bug fixes etc. which would be a shame to go un-preserved.

Correct, though in many cases the games themselves are cracks in budget versions... so those won't be used.
This usually happens when the company tries to be really cheap and duplicates on cheap systems, that can only write the ados format... Also happened when the master was lost... Or they wanted to make the package cheaper without the original material, Kixx budget releases come to mind immediately... Not to mention Elite (the game, not the company) where afair they removed the novella protection in order to save on the novella printing...
Of course many budget releases contain the remittance of the original print repackaged/badged.
...and some are really different versions, like the ones TG mentioned.

[IFW]

Originally posted by fiath
I was just kidding. At a very rough estimate, Midwinder II would probably be around 50Mb. Perhaps 100Mb at the very most.

But no, we won't change the scan quality. Why should we "punish" the developers of a game, just because they went to the bother of doing a really great package?

If the release is big, it is big. It won't matter much in 10-20 years, so we may as well do it properly now.

While some authors might deserve to be punished, people associated with Midwinter 2 are certainly not on my list
A lot of effort went into the game to make it worthy and to make their gaming universe complete and a lot of effort went into the manuals as well.
That is something I really happen to like.

[AmiGer]

@fiath

Just kidding, too...

@all

It exists also a german version (and a german manual I hope) of Midwinter II. Of course that would be more interesting for me. I wonder if it would be worth the work ? Hm, I could ask at gaeb (german board) if somebody has the box...
However, the english version would be also great...

@VermillioN

if you have enough time (for me) I would be very delighted for getting Millenium 2.2 (maybe after ICFTD)...

[IFW]

Originally posted by AmiGer
@fiath

Just kidding, too...

@all

It exists also a german version (and a german manual I hope) of Midwinter II. Of course that would be more interesting for me. I wonder if it would be worth the work ? Hm, I could ask at gaeb (german board) if somebody has the box...
However, the english version would be also great...

@VermillioN

if you have enough time (for me) I would be very delighted for getting Millenium 2.2 (maybe after ICFTD)...

Yes we have the Deutsch version of Midwinter 2 dumped. We prefer to go for an English version first (!) since that can reach a wider audience, however since some major contributors are from Germany rest assured your Deutsch gaming needs will be satisfied if possible.
Afaik there are some Deutsch games coming and many of the manuals are multi-language anyway, usually English, Deutsch, Francais.
For a Deutsch only example you may want to check out Fatal Heritage, that should be available soonish on BTTR. It is the only unmodfiied version of the game thanks to the authors and the efforts Bernd put into this - and thanks to me for supporting its protection
Some games have specific packaging for specific markets a recent example is Unreal that we were lucky to have both versions scanned, thanks to Ville9.

The Deutsch version of Midwinder 2 might be difficult to get scanned simply because of the size of the manuals, but if anyone is doing it properly it will definitely happen.

btw: obviously when we do these things we do it for everyone, not just you - and I'm pretty sure Millennium 2.2 and Deuteros are titles that most people would enjoy

[AmiGer]

Originally posted by IFW
...your Deutsch gaming needs will be satisfied if possible.

:eek I'm impressed. Many, many thanks... That would be great

... when we do these things we do it for everyone ...

Of course, I didn't mean it like I wrote it...

...the Deutsch version...

funny..., in germany we would write "deutsche" (lowercase and "e" and the end). But only in this case... Because german is a damn complicated language and some of us don't understand it as well...

[IFW]

Sorry for my poor German
Actually I have seen it only written like Deutsch in manuals so far... and Ville9 did not complain and he is a genuine German guy as well

sadly as I said before, I sold all the software years ago.. but I'm sure the other material may aid the quest of preservation
Also I have not much an idea to how many are 100% complete..so I updated the above list accordingly

How about starting with "It Came From The Desert" since it is on the release list. Once we have done that, we can decide on what others to do. Thanks!

will do, I'll be in touch soon

[IFW]

Thanks!

Well ICFTD is scanned, packed and ready to upload.. just waiting on response from faith

While I was going through the shed I found a stack of official hint books I'd forgotten about, (Monkey Island, Space Quest, Immortal, Chaos Strikes Back etc.. )
imo these books are classics in there own right and was wondering if you guys ever thought about preserving these aswell

[IFW]

Great, thanks!

Hint books: yes of course! Can you list them?

[AmiGer]

Originally posted by VermillioN
Well ICFTD is scanned, packed and ready to upload..

VermillioN, don't forget us Millenium fans...

Originally posted by IFW
Hint books: yes of course! Can you list them?

I can give it a bloody good go
list updated

Originally posted by AmiGer
VermillioN, don't forget us Millenium fans...

I would never DARE neglect the preservation of the great Millenium 2.2
However the priority is in the hands of IFW and Faith