AVIOutput at original resolution, display at higher

[Boulder]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Possible but in my opinion yet another "not worth the trouble"-feature.. (scaling would be easy but how to scale it? simple linear scaling? something different? screen positioning? etc..)

I don't know how the display issues are handled in WinUAE and unfortunately don't have enough knowledge to check it from the sources. However, I kind of thought that WinUAE would always get the original resolution from the application/game and then do its magic to display things at the resolution the user wants it to. I was thinking that maybe this original resolution video could be fed to AVIOutput. As a video hobbyist, I like to work on the original stuff

Nevertheless, I understand if it's not worth wasting your time on this

[Ultron]

It'd be really nice if all the Sound\Video dyssinchronising in AviOut were fixed too, it's a major problem for attempting to record Videos.

Being able to record in one resolution and output on another would be nice. Perhaps people could even run on 800x600 yet output video on 320x256x8, for instance.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Ultron

It'd be really nice if all the Sound\Video dyssinchronising in AviOut were fixed too, it's a major problem for attempting to record Videos.

I don't have that problem and nobody never replied when I asked (at least twice) for winuaelog.txt during recording that has sync errors..

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Ultron

Perhaps people could even run on 800x600 yet output video on 320x256x8, for instance.

Already replied in other thread but basically this requires yet another filtering panel for video scaling and screen positioning.. and video capturing isn't _that_ important feature..

[Ultron]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I don't have that problem and nobody never replied when I asked (at least twice) for winuaelog.txt during recording that has sync errors..

Really? I really thought this woudl've been thoroughly documented by now.

I really the behaviour i'm getting was more ordained so as to not insert a bunch of random hard to replicate events, but unfortunately as far as sound and video synchronization goes that's pretty much the way it goes.

It happens both with both "Disable Frame Limit" on or off. It's very random. I've actually managed to grab one video that was A-Ok. But for the most part it either starts unsynchronised and stays so, or it starts ok, and progressively degenerates.

With Disable Frame Limit on it seems to start unsync'ed and stay so. With it off (frame limit turned on) it seems to start ok and degenerate.

It's hard to know if this happens because the encoding can't happen fast enough, but theoretically that shouldn't be the case, right? It should only slow down the game play.

Here's my WinuaeBootlog attached, plus the config used for Outputing.

I use the Sound encoder on PCM and DivX encoding, to keep it light on the CPU, although i'm on a 2.6gigs with 512megs.

Tried everything by now... codecs, settings, screen sizes, sound settings. No go.

[Toni Wilen]

I need full winuaelog.txt, including all "AVIOutput: diff=xx skip=xx"-messages.

[Ultron]

Oh, ok.

Since i had the Logging disabled, i never saw a Winuaelog.txt

Here it is:

[Toni Wilen]

Thanks.

Hmm.. This shouldn't happen. For some unexplained reason video and audio gets out of sync really quickly, too quickly for compensation system to keep them in sync.

AVIOutput: diff=-16.88 skip=-20.00
AVIOutput: diff=-21.44 skip=-20.00
AVIOutput: diff=-26.00 skip=-20.00
AVIOutput: diff=-30.81 skip=-20.00
AVIOutput: diff=-35.38 skip=-20.00

diff should stay close to zero but in your log it just keeps growing..

[Ultron]

So Doctor, i can take it... how much to i have to live?

[Toni Wilen]

Does it work better if you set lag compensation slider (in sound panel) to zero?

[Ultron]

Hmmm... interesting:

AVIOutput: diff=-1.13 skip=-1.19
AVIOutput: diff=1.81 skip=2.44
AVIOutput: diff=2.50 skip=3.95
AVIOutput: diff=1.94 skip=2.70
AVIOutput: diff=2.13 skip=3.10
AVIOutput: diff=2.31 skip=3.52
AVIOutput: diff=2.25 skip=3.38
AVIOutput: diff=1.94 skip=2.70
AVIOutput: 500 frames, (50 fps)
AVIOutput: diff=2.38 skip=3.66
AVIOutput: diff=2.06 skip=2.96
TOD_HACK re-initialized CIATOD=0001F3
AVIOutput: diff=2.25 skip=3.38
AVIOutput: diff=2.19 skip=3.24
AVIOutput: diff=2.13 skip=3.10
AVIOutput: diff=2.31 skip=3.52
AVIOutput: diff=2.00 skip=2.83
AVIOutput: diff=2.44 skip=3.81
AVIOutput: diff=1.88 skip=2.57
AVIOutput: diff=2.31 skip=3.52
AVIOutput: 1000 frames, (50 fps)
AVIOutput: diff=2.25 skip=3.38
AVIOutput: diff=2.19 skip=3.24
AVIOutput: diff=2.13 skip=3.10
AVIOutput: diff=2.06 skip=2.96
AVIOutput: diff=2.25 skip=3.38
AVIOutput: diff=2.19 skip=3.24
AVIOutput: diff=2.13 skip=3.10
AVIOutput: diff=2.31 skip=3.52
Byte put to custom register DFF0B8 PC=0002F1C6
AVIOutput: diff=2.00 skip=2.83
Byte put to custom register DFF0B8 PC=0002F1C6
AVIOutput: diff=2.44 skip=3.81
AVIOutput: 1500 frames, (50 fps)

I'm going to check out the Avi out put itself to see how the sound is.

[Ultron]

Well, it looks (sounds) flawless now.

I'll make bigger recordings to make sure it doesn't degenerate over time.

In case all's ok. Let me then also state that it'be nice if the "Disable Frame Limit" would be saved together in the config file, if possible. The AviOutput button also looks a bit sticky... it's hard to know when its on or off. Sometimes it seems like you turned it off and it's actually still on. I'm using XP so when i over over it it bevels out making it look "off" (perhaps the button could toggle in text "AviOut Enabled"\"AviOutDisabled".)

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Ultron

...
AVIOutput: diff=2.50 skip=3.95
AVIOutput: diff=1.94 skip=2.70
AVIOutput: diff=2.13 skip=3.10
AVIOutput: diff=2.31 skip=3.52
AVIOutput: diff=2.25 skip=3.38
AVIOutput: diff=1.94 skip=2.70
..

Looks much better now

I am not sure if I can make lag adjustment compatible with recording but at least I can disable it while recording..

Let me then also state that it'be nice if the "Disable Frame Limit" would be saved together in the config file, if possible.

AVIOutput settings won't ever be in config file but they may be stored with other global settings to registry in future.

The AviOutput button also looks a bit sticky... it's hard to know when its on or off. Sometimes it seems like you turned it off and it's actually still on. I'm using XP so when i over over it it bevels out making it look "off" (perhaps the button could toggle in text "AviOut Enabled"\"AviOutDisabled".)

You can blame MS for changing styles too much
Seriously, I haven't noticed because I use classic theme in XP.

[Boulder]

I've had sync problems if Disable framerate limit is unchecked (that is, when you hear sound during recording). When it's checked (and there's no sound available during recording), the a/v sync is quite good (last time it was 50fps for video, 49.994fps for audio).

EDIT: I'll try to have log files for you tomorrow.

[Boulder]

Here are the logs.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Boulder

I've had sync problems if Disable framerate limit is unchecked (that is, when you hear sound during recording). When it's checked (and there's no sound available during recording), the a/v sync is quite good (last time it was 50fps for video, 49.994fps for audio).

EDIT: I'll try to have log files for you tomorrow.

Same problem both in windowed and fullscreen? (vsync-mode uses different sound timing which may not be compatible with recording)

[Boulder]

Yes, the problem remains in fullscreen as well.