27 March 2015, 21:38 | #1 |
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Zoom NTSC 1988 Discovery Software
I am looking for an ADF of Zoom US Version. There are some versions in TOSEC but they all appear to be the PAL release.
There was some discussion about it on this thread, but all leads I followed from there came to a dead end: http://www.lemonamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5434 Anyone know where I can find this disk image? |
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Not sure why your post disappeared? Any luck with this? . |
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31 March 2015, 11:10 | #3 |
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Zoom use a protection that can't be imaged in an extended ADF.
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31 March 2015, 12:59 | #4 |
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So the US version of this game has never been cracked by anyone?
It seems the US version is the 'complete' version according to comments on Lemonamiga. |
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i am not sure if i have US version of zoom buried somewhere, i'll see if i can find it
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31 March 2015, 14:55 | #6 |
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i found this...
levels load fine it looks like. game shows full screen on this Amiga and game speed looks normal so i assume it is NTSC ? |
31 March 2015, 14:57 | #7 |
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that's the NTSC version indeed
Can you dump it for us (do you have a kryoflux board ?). |
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I also would agree. You should also see a dark blue background instead of the black one in the PAL version.
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disk is write protected, and i do have kryoflux, all i need is a little help in dumping it, havent used kryoflux in a while so i need talking through
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My original copy is the latter and has a totally different disk label to kipper2k's (see HERE). Would be interesting to know if they contain different version releases of the game or not. Quote:
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Nope, there should be a blue background on the in-game screen when you start playing (see HERE). Probably doesn't matter as I'm beginning to think that all original PAL/NTSC copies of Zoom released have the blue background in-game. Anyway, let us know how you go with imaging your original. Might still be worthwhile having a go to see if it will image to ADF or extended ADF first before resorting to the Kryoflux. Hope both our copies of the game do as I don't own a Kryoflux! Last edited by DrBong; 31 March 2015 at 17:59. |
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The game has a blue background when playing.
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i remember quite a few years ago i tried to copy it and it would always fail once the level 1 map loaded up and it refused to actually put in the sprites
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31 March 2015, 20:51 | #15 |
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This game use a nasty copy protection.
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Well, the main coder Frank Neuhaus might've known a little bit about copy protection back in 1988 if he was responsible for White Lightning! |
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The destination (physical) floppy disk works, but I couldn't be able - as Denis says - to obtain a working extended adf file. |
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I have a kryoflux dump of the ntsc version. I started working on adding it to disk-analyse, but still have to do the protection track.
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Forgive me if I'm wrong on both counts here, but I've always identified the US/NTSC version of Zoom! to be the one that has:
* Animated intro featuring looped Rick James "Super Freak" sample * Topaz font used for credits, rather than the classic Unit A font ;-) * Alternative Thomas Lopatic title screen theme without the burbling arpeggio * Blue background If the above is correct, I can offer you the SPS IPF version exhibiting all of those, which I've already uploaded to my webspace. I'll edit this post to include a link to it (or put it in the Zone) if someone can verify that SURELY AFTER A DECADE OR MORE we're now allowed to do such a thing? I'll err on the side of caution in the meantime. I realise you requested an ADF and hence a cracked version. Well, I can state for a fact that there certainly was a cracked version in circulation around the time of its release, because I had it. Listening to the radio about a year later, I can remember hearing MC Hammer's hit record, "U Can't Touch This" and feeling baffled that it seemed to sample Zoom! Of course, I'd never heard the original Rick James track that was sampled by both. Good choice from Mr Lopatic. Who knows, perhaps it inspired MC Hammer?! Many years later, when running the Lazarus Amiga emulation website, we searched high and low for the cracked/ADF US version of Zoom!, out of nostalgia, but only ever turned up PAL releases that omitted the intro and had different title music. I began to think I'd dreamed the MC Hammer/Rick James connection. It wasn't until the (aforementioned) CAPS/SPS release turned up that my memories were confirmed. I never owned the original, so I must be remembering a deprotected version - possibly on two disks... Perhaps it was Unit A crack #51? ;-) |
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Games get posted regularly on EAB. edit: I have found through more Internet mining an IPF of Zoom which is as you describe Mark. It's in the Zone. Not sure if it's the PAL or NTSC release. Now the only problem is getting it back to a real disk. I don't think Powercopy Pro can do it. edit2: Meh, so the FAQ mentions I can't upload IPFs to the zone, so I have deleted it. Yet it's okay to upload uncracked games in ADF format. Bizarre, bizarre policy. The IPF is easily obtainable by grabbing the torrent on capsdi's frontpage anyway. Hope that helps someone. The protection in this game looks frankly insane though so I can't see anyone getting around to cracking it. Last edited by john1979; 02 April 2015 at 14:34. |
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