yep, undms:ed a couple of them with dms 1.11 on the real amiga... and the same thing. The images work in winuae though any how... Tosec named some of the as [o] overdumped i assume... so ' i'll just keep 'em that way then.. it was only about 20 files from every cd, so i'll gues i'll still will have more adf's than i'll ever use in this life at least