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CCCP alert · 05 February 2024, 05:13

I only knew of the Commodore 128D lookalike called the PC-1. That was the same price as the Atari PC1 (almost identical specs) and these 8088 PCs came a fair bit after the Amstrad PC1512, also cost £100 more than the 8086 based PC1512.

From wikipedia
Commodore PC 5 Introduced in 1984, at $1395, the Commodore PC 5 is the low-budget option with a monochrome video card. It has a Intel 8088 running at 4.77 MHz and 256 KB RAM on-board (expandable to 640 KB)

Commodore PC 10 The Commodore PC 10 is a PC 5 with a added color video card and two floppy drives (so still 256kb)

Then it gets confusing with the following...
Commodore PC 10-1 512 KB RAM and single floppy drive version. $519
Commodore PC 10-2 640 KB RAM and dual floppy Drives. $619

So looking at $100 for 128k and 5 1/4 disk drive I can only guess that $619 = extra 384kb of DRAM and a color (EGA? CGA?) video card over the cost of the PC 5, which is like $2000 in 1984.

These sound like Gould 1984 projects to me. "Gould replaced Tramiel with Marshall F. Smith, a steel executive without a computer or consumer marketing experience."

The time when the chicken head company became the headless chicken company.

If Tramiel wanted your market segment you would know about it. This 256k $1400 mono 4.77mhz 8088 PC without monitor doesn't sound like a Tramiel product at all, it makes no sense and the person who came up with this damp fart of an idea would be Jack Attacked out the building more like

Tramiel is the sort of person who would be at MOS first finding out if they could make a compatible CPU and pay nothing to anybody, just like with the 6800 vs 6501 (then 6502). Remember he took his eye off the low selling/high profit PET and focussed on the massive selling/massive profit root MOS engineers in his back pocket allowed. Clearly MOS told him they couldn't competively make LCD displays so he went out and acquired Eagle Pitcher to make the Commodore LCD feasible at prototype stage.

Getting a licence, finding out they can't produce the 8088 in house cheaper, giving up....this sequence of events is 100% arse over tit work of the losers Gould had replaced Tramiel with. Just like the Plus/4 costing more than the C64 idea LOL

05 February 2024, 05:13	#24
CCCP alert Registered User Join Date: May 2023 Location: essex Posts: 475	I only knew of the Commodore 128D lookalike called the PC-1. That was the same price as the Atari PC1 (almost identical specs) and these 8088 PCs came a fair bit after the Amstrad PC1512, also cost £100 more than the 8086 based PC1512. From wikipedia Commodore PC 5 Introduced in 1984, at $1395, the Commodore PC 5 is the low-budget option with a monochrome video card. It has a Intel 8088 running at 4.77 MHz and 256 KB RAM on-board (expandable to 640 KB) Commodore PC 10 The Commodore PC 10 is a PC 5 with a added color video card and two floppy drives (so still 256kb) Then it gets confusing with the following... Commodore PC 10-1 512 KB RAM and single floppy drive version. $519 Commodore PC 10-2 640 KB RAM and dual floppy Drives. $619 So looking at $100 for 128k and 5 1/4 disk drive I can only guess that $619 = extra 384kb of DRAM and a color (EGA? CGA?) video card over the cost of the PC 5, which is like $2000 in 1984. These sound like Gould 1984 projects to me. "Gould replaced Tramiel with Marshall F. Smith, a steel executive without a computer or consumer marketing experience." The time when the chicken head company became the headless chicken company. If Tramiel wanted your market segment you would know about it. This 256k $1400 mono 4.77mhz 8088 PC without monitor doesn't sound like a Tramiel product at all, it makes no sense and the person who came up with this damp fart of an idea would be Jack Attacked out the building more like Tramiel is the sort of person who would be at MOS first finding out if they could make a compatible CPU and pay nothing to anybody, just like with the 6800 vs 6501 (then 6502). Remember he took his eye off the low selling/high profit PET and focussed on the massive selling/massive profit root MOS engineers in his back pocket allowed. Clearly MOS told him they couldn't competively make LCD displays so he went out and acquired Eagle Pitcher to make the Commodore LCD feasible at prototype stage. Getting a licence, finding out they can't produce the 8088 in house cheaper, giving up....this sequence of events is 100% arse over tit work of the losers Gould had replaced Tramiel with. Just like the Plus/4 costing more than the C64 idea LOL Last edited by CCCP alert; 05 February 2024 at 05:20.