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LOL - if you need help then don't talk with mirror, go to shrink.
There was no war between 68k and x86 - they made own ecosystems - x86 mostly PC and later embedded, 68k Unix and from beginning serious embedded (VME) - literally 68k dominated automotive, industrial automation, military - many critical applications...
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That's a useless argument when Motorola has a thriving desktop and Unix 68K workstation platforms.
Motorola wasn't serious about the Unix market when 68K MMU wasn't integrated until 68030's 1987 release.
For Microsoft's Xenix, Intel integrated X86 MMUs for 286 and 386. Every 286/386 PC has Xenix potential. 80386-based PC laid the groundwork for Linux.
Microsoft's Xenix was "the world's best-selling" AT&T-licensed Unix distribution before Microsoft was distracted by IBM's OS/2 project.
https://techmonitor.ai/technology/mo...0_next_quarter
Date: April 19, 1994.
Motorola Inc yesterday finally launched the long-promised 68060 follow-on to the 68040, claiming that it matches the performance of the Intel Corp Pentium at less than half the price – it costs $263 at 50MHz when you order 10,000 or more and will sample next month.
With 68060's 1994 release, Motorola Inc. made negative remarks against Intel Pentium competition.
For Xmas Q4 1993 time period, Motorola's 68LC040 @ 25Mhz pricing allowed Apple to offer a competitive price vs performance solution against PC clone's 486SX-25/486-33 price range.
Amiga's uncompetitive price vs performance cost issue is Commodore's fault.
Your head is in the sand.
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There was no 68k clones - it was officially licensed - x86 is opposite - one of many examples is NEC v20/v30 - better than Intel - with 386 it was even more different implementations...
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AMD's X86 clones are licensed from Intel.
AMD's 80386 legal win against Intel is based on IBM's second X86 source contract enforcement.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...893-story.html
An arbitrator last year agreed that Intel had violated the agreement
AMD's credible second source insurance worked for X86's 64-bit transition when Intel attempted an anti-X86 Itanium 64-bit transition.
NEC V30 lacks 80286's MMU compatibility, hence no "business" Xenix.
NEC V33 is just a fast 8086 CPU type, hence NEC V30 series is just a toy 16-bit X86 CPU.
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Price vs performance... obviously you are ignoring one of the most important factors... Commodore never offered PA or 68060 based machines...
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Commodore went bust before offering PA-RISC or 68060-based SKUs.
Commodore offered Pentium-based PC SKUs before its bankruptcy, hence Commodore is aware of Intel's Pentium performance roadmap.
68060 is dependent on 68040 CPU socket infrastructure and Commodore wasn't able to mass produce 68040 CPU socket infrastructure at the same level as Apple's 68LC040/68040-based systems.
This topic is about Commodore NOT being bankrupt.
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All above - not sure why are you arguing with me not with Motorola or other sources? Use time machine, go back to 1994 and argue with Motorola, Commodore, IBM, Intel etc...
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This topic is about Commodore NOT being bankrupt.
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Switch was never targeted to gamers but to people willing to play from time to time in particular types of games.
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Switch is a dedicated games console in a handheld form factor. Switch targeted gamers who wanted a handheld form factor and Nintendo's 1st party and exclusive games. Steam Deck is a competitor in gaming handhelds.
Causal handheld gamers are on mobile phones.
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Please don't mix various incompatible HW SoC's only because products based on them share some Pi in name...
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I'm aware of
wannabe Pi clones with incompatible Pi GPIOs.
RPi has many 3rd party add-on support and a large RPi community advantage over wannabe Pi clones.
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Are you working in marketing? As a used cars seller...?
btw please provide list of "minor refinments" for 8364R4 vs 8364R7
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Paula's 56kHz mode wouldn't work without ECS Denise and Agnus.
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LoL - used cars seller you are truly...
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You can't handle the truth e.g. Your "There was no war between 68k and x86" is bullshit.
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Commodore outsourced Lisa to HP and VLSI - VLSI in 1993 - obviously there must be reason why Lisa from CSG was usually not populated on Amiga boards...
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https://bigbookofamigahardware.com/b...t.aspx?id=1493
HP fabricated Lisa chip with 1992 markings.
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But with remark that in PC 320x240 is in fact 320x480 in 60Hz...
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Don't mix up rendering to display refresh rates.
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Once again - Tseng ET4000 is a dumb framebuffer without HW acceleration - this is official Tseng information provided in ET4000 datasheet - if you can please provide alternate datasheet where Tseng provide information about HW acceleration implemented in ET4000 (not VLB ET4000Wxxxx).
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Tseng Labs ET4000AX is one of many IBM 8514A clones.
https://ia904501.us.archive.org/28/i...sET4000VGA.pdf
At 16 of 26 pages,ET4000 has drivers for AutoCAD 2.6.
At the 17th page,ET4000 has drivers for AutoCAD R10/R11.
At the 18th page, ET4000 has IBM 8514/A Emulation Driver.
At the 22th page, ET4000 has Nth render drivers for 3D Studio and Auto Shade 2.0. Nth render is a protected mode display/rendering driver. It supports VGA, 8514/A, TIGA 2.0, and Nth Engine 150 adapters.
At the 23th page, the ET4000 Windows 3.0/3.1 driver removes the need for application-specific drivers. Microsoft is the big elephant in the room.
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Of course you could create PGA clone - it was based on Intel 8088 CPU so it was not difficult task... - you could even made it on 8086 (NEC v30) so it could be faster than IBM PGA...
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CPU by itself wouldn't make PGA. IBM PGA has CGA backward compatibility and it was quickly replaced by 1987 VGA and IBM 8514/A.
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True (so no legacy compatibility seem to be not so big issue)
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Nintendo usually has several strong 1st party exclusive games and low entry costs, hence breaking legacy compatibility is not a major issue.
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But with remark that in PC 320x240 is in fact 320x480 in 60Hz...
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December 1993, Doom doesn't have 320x480 resolution.