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A500+ · 23 December 2022, 13:18

Hi guys,

New registrant, long time lurker here. Good to meet you all!

For clarity I'm playing in emulation via WinUAE. I have a real A1200 but no HD or CF (yet) so it's not currently an option.

So after playing around with the idea of creating a self-contained Dungeon Master collection I can carry around with me on a USB stick I encountered various problems with both DM and CSB (I haven't even started on DM 2 yet!). I'll spare you the long story but I eventually got the DM and CSB WHDLoad installs from WHDownload and they appear to work okay. The only problem is I'm unable to import my DM save into CSB. I go through the CSB install routine providing a DM save disk and it says it's installed correctly but then fails to boot with a 'DOS-Error #205 on Disk.1'. I've tried every CSB release in the TOSEC library and a fair few I've found in The Zone but none of them work. I even tried using the Disk.1 and Disk.2 files contained in the WHDLoad install itself, renaming them with a .adf extension but to no avail (I'm not sure if it's even possible to do that anyway but I figured it was worth a go!).

So, after some research I came across this thread. There is a lot of technical talk in there and I'm not 100% sure I've interpreted it correctly, but I think it means there is currently no fully working (either sans copy protection or else successfully cracked) ADFs or IPFs of CSB anywhere, right? Also a lot (but not all?) of the DM releases floating around have problems with copy protection too?

That then lead me to thinking and I have a few questions you guys might be able to clarify for me in lamens terms:

1) Do the DM and CSB WHDLoad installs (from WHDownload) both work 100% through to completion, or are they both blighted by the copy protection at some point?

1.a) If they do work, then what versions were used to install them (presumably on real hardware but then how do they work in emulation via WHDLoad if still copy protected)?

1.b) If they don't work is there any way to play them successfully via emulation - whether using WHDLoad or floppy images?

2) Is it possible to import a saved DM game into the WHDLoad version of CSB given that you need to use the install routine (and thus working CSB disks) to do it?

3) Does anyone know if DM 2 has any of the same problems or does the WHDLoad install of that game work 100% through to completion.

The answers to these questions are probably already out there, I know, and I have tried to research and figure it out for myself but it may be a rare case of too much information being available as I'm quite confused by it all. I hope you don't mind me seeking some clarification here.

Thanks in advance guys.

23 December 2022, 13:18	#1
A500+ Amigas: A500+ A600 A1200 Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Liverpool, UK Age: 42 Posts: 55	Dungeon Master and Chaos Strikes Back copy protection clarification needed Hi guys, New registrant, long time lurker here. Good to meet you all! For clarity I'm playing in emulation via WinUAE. I have a real A1200 but no HD or CF (yet) so it's not currently an option. So after playing around with the idea of creating a self-contained Dungeon Master collection I can carry around with me on a USB stick I encountered various problems with both DM and CSB (I haven't even started on DM 2 yet!). I'll spare you the long story but I eventually got the DM and CSB WHDLoad installs from WHDownload and they appear to work okay. The only problem is I'm unable to import my DM save into CSB. I go through the CSB install routine providing a DM save disk and it says it's installed correctly but then fails to boot with a 'DOS-Error #205 on Disk.1'. I've tried every CSB release in the TOSEC library and a fair few I've found in The Zone but none of them work. I even tried using the Disk.1 and Disk.2 files contained in the WHDLoad install itself, renaming them with a .adf extension but to no avail (I'm not sure if it's even possible to do that anyway but I figured it was worth a go!). So, after some research I came across this thread. There is a lot of technical talk in there and I'm not 100% sure I've interpreted it correctly, but I think it means there is currently no fully working (either sans copy protection or else successfully cracked) ADFs or IPFs of CSB anywhere, right? Also a lot (but not all?) of the DM releases floating around have problems with copy protection too? That then lead me to thinking and I have a few questions you guys might be able to clarify for me in lamens terms: 1) Do the DM and CSB WHDLoad installs (from WHDownload) both work 100% through to completion, or are they both blighted by the copy protection at some point? 1.a) If they do work, then what versions were used to install them (presumably on real hardware but then how do they work in emulation via WHDLoad if still copy protected)? 1.b) If they don't work is there any way to play them successfully via emulation - whether using WHDLoad or floppy images? 2) Is it possible to import a saved DM game into the WHDLoad version of CSB given that you need to use the install routine (and thus working CSB disks) to do it? 3) Does anyone know if DM 2 has any of the same problems or does the WHDLoad install of that game work 100% through to completion. The answers to these questions are probably already out there, I know, and I have tried to research and figure it out for myself but it may be a rare case of too much information being available as I'm quite confused by it all. I hope you don't mind me seeking some clarification here. Thanks in advance guys.