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Old 18 October 2016, 17:03   #109
meynaf
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What makes you think that myself and pandy71 haven't listened to it?
If you have listened to something, it's certainly not the same thing as i have.


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I certainly have and it's OK-ish for reproducing 8-bit audio, not good enough for 14-bit audio, and nowhere near what's required for 16-bit audio. It's blindingly obvious to an experienced electronics design engineer why this is the case when examining the schematics and PCB layout.

It makes perfect sense to listen first (as your ears tell you everything you need to know about what you personally actually hear) then investigate after if you feel the need, so that's precisely what I've done. It's exactly what I'd expect based on my own independent listening tests and backed up by 35 years knowledge and experience of digital and analogue electronic circuit design.
Too bad we can't just do a blind experiment to verify your assertions.


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Sounding good to certain individuals doesn't negate the fact that it's actually very poor in terms of circuit design and implementation, hence the fact that is does sound fairly awful to certain others with good enough equipment and ears to notice.
I have the slight impression we're not talking about the same thing and/or not living in the same world.


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Please show me where I said that the Amiga's sound is "so damn piss poor", or is that in reference to someone else's reply that I've missed?
Aside of what's in bold above, see below.


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On that basis, upgrading the opamp is probably a complete waste of time as the distortion and noise it creates is most likely already at least an order of magnitude below what's present in the input signal.
Translation : that thing produces lots of noise.
Problem : i never actually heard that noise.


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The entire audio circuitry is incredibly poorly implemented. It would be hard to have made it any worse on purpose let alone by accident.
So you didn't write "so damn piss poor" but it looks quite the same !


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I have no problem with others being perfectly happy with it, so why do you have a problem with others who aren't so impressed? Chill.
Yeah, continue spitting on it if you want.
But please plug an Atari ST on a hifi equipment and listen. Then you will know what 'noise' and 'incredibly poorly implemented' really mean.
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