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Forum: Amiga scene 16 January 2019, 16:18
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Posted By kolla
No, not at all, big changes are typically...

No, not at all, big changes are typically announced way ahead and there are typically long "grace periods" for transitioning from "old" to "new" methods. Also you may have heard of the concept "long...
Forum: Amiga scene 16 January 2019, 14:47
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Posted By kolla
I never did.

I never did.
Forum: Amiga scene 15 January 2019, 20:41
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Posted By kolla
The "mess" I talk about is all the incarnations...

The "mess" I talk about is all the incarnations of Amiga shell you can expext to find on 68k Amiga systems. Someone running "OS 3.9" can be running anything from v40 to v46, depending on what...
Forum: Amiga scene 15 January 2019, 19:39
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Posted By kolla
Yeah, meanwhile, in Amiga land, there is various...

Yeah, meanwhile, in Amiga land, there is various incarnations of Amiga Shell, AROS Shell, MorphOS Shell, and this thing I think best is described as ThoR Shell. All different in all their ways, no...
Forum: Amiga scene 15 January 2019, 19:18
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Posted By kolla
The point was to show the failure of open...

The point was to show the failure of open sourcing things.
Forum: Amiga scene 15 January 2019, 19:02
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Posted By kolla
Meanwhile, in Microsoft land... ...

Meanwhile, in Microsoft land...
https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell
Forum: Amiga scene 15 January 2019, 11:37
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Posted By kolla
Will? Certainly not the OS 3.1.4...

Will?



Certainly not the OS 3.1.4 SetPatch I have.

So, make up your mind, "team", is it "already has" or "will"?
Forum: Amiga scene 15 January 2019, 07:40
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Posted By kolla
@malko What do you think counts most, intention...

@malko
What do you think counts most, intention of a ruling, or wording of a ruling? Hyperion's own lawyer has openly admitted, even bragged, that he tricked in last minute changes in the ruling...
Forum: Amiga scene 14 January 2019, 23:39
Replies: 666
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Posted By kolla
For Linux that is not at all a problem, rather...

For Linux that is not at all a problem, rather the contrary.
Forum: Amiga scene 14 January 2019, 23:36
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Posted By kolla
In what way has Linux not succeded on Amiga? It...

In what way has Linux not succeded on Amiga? It compiles, it boots, it supports hardware, apart from graphical it is often faster on i/o and network... so what is the problem?
Forum: Amiga scene 14 January 2019, 21:43
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Posted By kolla
By "Linux" you mean Debian, I presume?

By "Linux" you mean Debian, I presume?
Forum: Amiga scene 14 January 2019, 19:47
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Posted By kolla
All scripts use it, default failat is 10, and...

All scripts use it, default failat is 10, and that is currently ignored. You gave the impression that you have something that will work for everybody, so what is it?
Forum: Amiga scene 14 January 2019, 19:18
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Posted By kolla
Well, that's not an excuse they can use while...

Well, that's not an excuse they can use while also claiming full ownership.
Forum: Amiga scene 14 January 2019, 14:50
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Posted By kolla
@ Romanujan Really. Please do share....

@ Romanujan

Really.


Please do share.

@malko

So what is your suggestion for a temporary fix for people who upgraded to kick 3.1.4 ROMs?
Forum: Amiga scene 14 January 2019, 12:55
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Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
So, around xmas times, as I said.

So, around xmas times, as I said.
Forum: Amiga scene 14 January 2019, 12:20
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Posted By kolla
AmigaOS 3.1.4 withdrawn from market after Amiga

Well, first step is to remove the OS 3.1.4 kickstart and reinsert the OS 3.1 kickstart, so you have a rom to rip and extract from. Oh, you upgraded from 3.0 or 2.x? Sorry, you are out of luck. Ask...
Forum: Amiga scene 14 January 2019, 09:52
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Posted By kolla
Yes, using old shell fixes the problem for those...

Yes, using old shell fixes the problem for those of us who know how to extract the old shell from kickstart files and rom updates... it does not fix the problem for those who just install a kickstart...
Forum: Amiga scene 14 January 2019, 08:56
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Posted By kolla
I would happily pay more if it meant proper...

I would happily pay more if it meant proper support, ie a bug tracker, tickets and frequent updates and good bug handling. Hyperion has had a few months to explain whether they consider using OS...
Forum: Amiga scene 14 January 2019, 07:13
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
AmigaOS 3.1.4 withdrawn from market after Amiga

And more to the actual point of what I wrote, people who bought 3.1.4 as an upgrade to 3.1 do not necessarily have OS 3.9bb2 available to extract Shell-Seg from, to patch with the update from Aminet...
Forum: Amiga scene 14 January 2019, 06:50
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Posted By kolla
AmigaOS 3.1.4 withdrawn from market after Amiga

Woop woop, so LoadModule is redundant?
How do I tell SetPatch to load shell-seg 45.39 from disk? Will it be boot resident, or must SetPatch be copied around on all boot devices (omg all those...
Forum: Amiga scene 13 January 2019, 21:06
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
AmigaOS 3.1.4 withdrawn from market after Amiga

This only works for OS 3.9 owners, people who upgrade from 3.1 may not have the necessary version of shell available for patching.

A better option is to upload a patch for OS 3.1.4 Shell, which...
Forum: Amiga scene 13 January 2019, 13:01
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
I don't think so. As reported a few time, the...

I don't think so. As reported a few time, the Hyperion people have screwed up too many relationships and stepped on too many toes, it has become "personal". The "amiga parties" and their allies want...
Forum: Amiga scene 11 January 2019, 19:22
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
For me it is no big deal, as until this is fixed...

For me it is no big deal, as until this is fixed properly (a new shell-seg) I am simply not using v46 shell. It is a big deal for people who try to write scripts for the general audience though, they...
Forum: Amiga scene 11 January 2019, 16:46
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
So what should SetPatch do in such cases? Refuse...

So what should SetPatch do in such cases? Refuse to exit, and just hang there? Guru? Patch the shell regardless and exit?
Forum: Amiga scene 11 January 2019, 14:16
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Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
So SetPatch shall handle the special case when...

So SetPatch shall handle the special case when SetPatch fails. Assuring.
Forum: Amiga scene 11 January 2019, 14:06
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Posted By kolla
AmigaOS 3.1.4 withdrawn from market after Amiga

So a new SetPatch. And if that SetPatch fails for whatever reasons, startup-sequence just rolls on. And instead of having experimental updates steadily landing on aminet, OS3 is now caught in the...
Forum: Amiga scene 11 January 2019, 13:39
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
The big question is how you will fix bugs that...

The big question is how you will fix bugs that affect all kickstarts chips that are currently sold.
Forum: Amiga scene 11 January 2019, 13:37
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
I never said I am not willing to do Norwegian...

I never said I am not willing to do Norwegian locales, on the contrary. What I have said is that I am not willing to sign any NDA with Hyperion. Send me .ct and.cd files, and I will give you locales...
Forum: News 08 January 2019, 09:18
Replies: 47
Views: 6,658
Posted By kolla
@daxb Yes, I have read it, and been yelled at...

@daxb
Yes, I have read it, and been yelled at by ThoR for not having read original OS 3.1 manuals about CrossDOS (which btw I have now done, and it really did not say much). The big hint was when...
Forum: Amiga scene 07 January 2019, 08:44
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
Yes, I also have been using it to execute...

Yes, I also have been using it to execute multiple commands in one go, I just didn't recall whether they would be executed sequentially or not. But you are right, I just tested with shell 45.39 and...
Forum: Amiga scene 06 January 2019, 23:56
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
Right, which is what I do. Now that Hyperion,...

Right, which is what I do. Now that Hyperion, with Thor's blessing, is in total ownership, I doubt there will be more aminet updates though. So we have yet another incarnation of the shell to worry...
Forum: Amiga scene 06 January 2019, 18:50
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
First of all, in v46, _pchar and _mchar variables...

First of all, in v46, _pchar and _mchar variables are no longer used, they are hard coded to | and ||.

Secondly, external "pipe" command is no longer used, instead piping is done internally,...
Forum: Amiga scene 06 January 2019, 13:40
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
AmigaOS 3.1.4 withdrawn from market after Amiga

Feel free to think out a way around that also works with existing scripts and when people just insert a random old floppy.

The work-around is to fix and ship new kickstarts to all customers....
Forum: Amiga scene 06 January 2019, 13:33
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
Shell v46 that ships in the 3.1.4 kickstart does...

Shell v46 that ships in the 3.1.4 kickstart does not respect failat levels, so scripts keep running even when commands fail.
Forum: Amiga scene 05 January 2019, 09:39
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
Beg all you like, factum is that the shell that...

Beg all you like, factum is that the shell that ships with KS 3.1.4 has a serious bug that will forever haunt the users and developers.

3.1 is well known, its flaws and bugs are well understood,...
Forum: Amiga scene 05 January 2019, 07:13
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
Because Hyperion is a company founded and run by...

Because Hyperion is a company founded and run by a lawyer, "court" is the only language this company understands.
Forum: Amiga scene 05 January 2019, 07:09
Replies: 666
Views: 47,150
Posted By kolla
It's more annoying that 3.1.4 was shipped in a...

It's more annoying that 3.1.4 was shipped in a premature state, and now people buy kickstarts ROMs with a version of shell, that doesn't respect failat and with an experimental implementation of pipe...
Forum: News 04 January 2019, 10:19
Replies: 79
Views: 7,244
Posted By kolla
Open source on Amiga is always shitty, right? ...

Open source on Amiga is always shitty, right?
PeterK's icon.library for example.

No, it's not whether something is open source or not that defines whether it shitty or not, it's the actual code....
Forum: News 03 January 2019, 10:48
Replies: 79
Views: 7,244
Posted By kolla
Having a joint press release with Hyperion is...

Having a joint press release with Hyperion is never a good thing, bye bye iComp.
Forum: News 03 January 2019, 10:44
Replies: 79
Views: 7,244
Posted By kolla
You prefer only open sourcing abandonware, with...

You prefer only open sourcing abandonware, with zero chance of knowledge transfer? That's the general problem with open source of Amiga software, it's done in an after thought, instead of being the...
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