Which Amiga model is better

20 December 2008, 00:18

Which model between A1200, A3000 and A4000 is better to use (emulate) for playing WHDLoad games ?

blade002 · 20 December 2008, 01:42

Goes without saying, the flagship machine really is the A1200

Emulation is cheaper than buying a real machine (but i rather a real machine), so buying an A4000 for most people is not financially viable, whereas an accelerated 68030 based A1200 with some extra ram is a cheaper and more well rounded option.

Maybe i am wrong, you might be able to get hold an A4000 these days that is about the same price of an accelerated A1200 but i somehow doubt it. The A3000 is a brilliant machine also, but it does not possess the AGA chipset.

I will always have a soft spot for the A500 though

klx300r · 20 December 2008, 07:41

A1200 with 030 accelerator and some fast ram

AmigaFriend · 20 December 2008, 15:12

The A4000 is great it rocks. I am a fortunate owner of one for the past 14 years and it works like day one.

But I think for someone who wishes to start in Amiga the A1200 is the best deal as blade002 says, because of availability and price, and you can beef it up later with anything you could probably want/need.

haynor · 22 December 2008, 08:26

The best will be A1200 with some fast RAM (even 2Mb is enough but 4 is better). 030 makes palying a little better but you might get trouble in some games (that's very rare). Amiga 4000 and generally machines with processsor 040 and higher are not needed and they can cause in more troubles.

I personally use A1200 with turbo 1230 mkII with 16 Mb Fast and that's enough for whdload games.

FOL · 22 December 2008, 10:10

Deffo the A1200, its a lovely looking machine,

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26 December 2008, 01:42

Just tried few WHDLoad games with A4000 config, but i see no differences compared to A1200 config

Perhaps the only thing important for WHDLoad games is RAM, not CPU used

However what's difference between "Fast RAM" and "Z3 Fast RAM" ?

haynor · 27 December 2008, 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Another World

Just tried few WHDLoad games with A4000 config, but i see no differences compared to A1200 config

Perhaps the only thing important for WHDLoad games is RAM, not CPU used

However what's difference between "Fast RAM" and "Z3 Fast RAM" ?

Some WHD games have problems on 040 processor. It's better to use 030 after all.

Toni Wilen · 27 December 2008, 13:16

WHDLoad problems generally aren't because of 68040 CPU but implementation of the accelerator card (memory speed, bus cycle allocation etc..)

I am just saying: stating that "<put some processor here> usually means problems" isn't true.

haynor · 27 December 2008, 16:11

But it's better to use simple 030 turbo card than 040 card or higher, yes?

27 December 2008, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

WHDLoad problems generally aren't because of 68040 CPU but implementation of the accelerator card (memory speed, bus cycle allocation etc..)

I am just saying: stating that "<put some processor here> usually means problems" isn't true.

What is an accelerator card and which Amiga models support it ?

Shoonay · 27 December 2008, 20:28

@AW: Generally speaking, it's a better and faster CPU on a card, most of the times with some extra memory.
Each (at least those smaller) Amigas has it's own accelerator card expansion slot and if you want to get one - you have to buy the one that will fit in your Amiga.

20 December 2008, 00:18	#1
Another World Posts: n/a	Which Amiga model is better Which model between A1200, A3000 and A4000 is better to use (emulate) for playing WHDLoad games ?

20 December 2008, 01:42	#2
blade002 Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Age: 39 Posts: 2,325	Goes without saying, the flagship machine really is the A1200 Emulation is cheaper than buying a real machine (but i rather a real machine), so buying an A4000 for most people is not financially viable, whereas an accelerated 68030 based A1200 with some extra ram is a cheaper and more well rounded option. Maybe i am wrong, you might be able to get hold an A4000 these days that is about the same price of an accelerated A1200 but i somehow doubt it. The A3000 is a brilliant machine also, but it does not possess the AGA chipset. I will always have a soft spot for the A500 though Last edited by blade002; 20 December 2008 at 01:47.

20 December 2008, 07:41	#3
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 43 Posts: 429	A1200 with 030 accelerator and some fast ram __________________ _______________________________________________________ c64-dual sids, c128, A500,-A590, A1200-030@50 Indivision AGA & Catweasel MK4+= Amazing ! My Master Miggies- A1000 & AmigaOne X1000 --- www.amigaos.net --- *X1000- I BELIEVE *

22 December 2008, 08:26	#5
haynor retro maniac Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tarnobrzeg/Poland Age: 34 Posts: 1,329	The best will be A1200 with some fast RAM (even 2Mb is enough but 4 is better). 030 makes palying a little better but you might get trouble in some games (that's very rare). Amiga 4000 and generally machines with processsor 040 and higher are not needed and they can cause in more troubles. I personally use A1200 with turbo 1230 mkII with 16 Mb Fast and that's enough for whdload games. Last edited by haynor; 22 December 2008 at 14:03.

27 December 2008, 20:28	#12
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Posts: 5,844	@AW: Generally speaking, it's a better and faster CPU on a card, most of the times with some extra memory. Each (at least those smaller) Amigas has it's own accelerator card expansion slot and if you want to get one - you have to buy the one that will fit in your Amiga. __________________ "I used to be an Amiga user, then I took an arrow in the knee." Last edited by Shoonay; 27 December 2008 at 22:14.

20 December 2008, 15:12	#4
AmigaFriend Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: CLI Posts: 1,461	The A4000 is great it rocks. I am a fortunate owner of one for the past 14 years and it works like day one. But I think for someone who wishes to start in Amiga the A1200 is the best deal as blade002 says, because of availability and price, and you can beef it up later with anything you could probably want/need.

26 December 2008, 01:42	#7
Another World Posts: n/a	Just tried few WHDLoad games with A4000 config, but i see no differences compared to A1200 config Perhaps the only thing important for WHDLoad games is RAM, not CPU used However what's difference between "Fast RAM" and "Z3 Fast RAM" ?

27 December 2008, 13:16	#9
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 38 Posts: 12,032	WHDLoad problems generally aren't because of 68040 CPU but implementation of the accelerator card (memory speed, bus cycle allocation etc..) I am just saying: stating that "<put some processor here> usually means problems" isn't true.

27 December 2008, 16:11	#10
haynor retro maniac Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tarnobrzeg/Poland Age: 34 Posts: 1,329	But it's better to use simple 030 turbo card than 040 card or higher, yes?

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