Copy protection?

mai · 23 September 2008, 13:11

Is there a list of amigagames available, which games have protection?
(physical, manual or no protection).
Description:
I have found "Fetiche Maya, Le" english version(ADF), is not in TOSEC yet, available in Gamebase Amiga.
All french versions in TOSEC have [cr group] flags.
But in the english version i am not able to figure out, if this game was cracked(no intro) or there was no copy protection.
Please help, for exact TOSEC naming.

Maybe this is an inspiration for HOL, to create a new entry.

Retro-Nerd · 23 September 2008, 13:18

Maya is an Amiga DOS game. You could check the file date stamps. Compare it with SPS#1742.

Edit: All files should dated with 08-Feb-87. You can also compare it with KillerGorilla's preinstalled English Version.

IFW · 23 September 2008, 15:35

SPS#1742 has on-disk protection.

Retro-Nerd · 23 September 2008, 15:40

Long track protection?

mai · 23 September 2008, 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Maya is an Amiga DOS game. You could check the file date stamps. Compare it with SPS#1742.

Edit: All files should dated with 08-Feb-87.

All files have this date stamp.
What does that mean?

Retro-Nerd · 23 September 2008, 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by maimai

All files have this date stamp.
What does that mean?

That somebody made a normal ADF dump of the original disk. But this dump shouldn't work properly, because this game has some kind of protection. The WHDLoad readme mention a long track protection.

Edit: Or it is maybe a bugdet re-release without any kind of protection, who knows.

bippym · 23 September 2008, 16:18

If it is in TOSEC then a renamer somewhere should have checked it, but a lot of the earlier stuff managed to get through the net.

There is a good chance the game isn't cracked properly, and as such probably doesn't work!

mai · 23 September 2008, 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

If it is in TOSEC then a renamer somewhere should have checked it, but a lot of the earlier stuff managed to get through the net.

There is a good chance the game isn't cracked properly, and as such probably doesn't work!

This english version is not in Tosec yet.
I have found it in gamebase Amiga.
I thought Gamebase Amiga means 100% working games.

Retro-Nerd · 23 September 2008, 17:40

Gamebase Amiga says "cracked by Quartex". I have no clue how Belg could verify this, we have to wait for his answer.

mai · 23 September 2008, 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Gamebase Amiga says "cracked by Quartex". I have no clue how Belg could verify this, we have to wait for his answer.

Where can i find this tip?
In the game itself is no such a tip.
Anyway, game starts in WinUAE!

Retro-Nerd · 23 September 2008, 17:58

You need to install Gamebase v1.2 and then the Gamebase Amiga database. Yep, game works fine here too.

mai · 23 September 2008, 18:08

OK, game is probably cracked by Quartex!
I have checked exe-file with hex-viewer.
There you can find "Quartex" string.

Retro-Nerd · 23 September 2008, 18:10

Yep, just forgot the hex viewer tools. Cracked by Quartex, and they kept the original date stamp for this file.

mai · 23 September 2008, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Yep, just forgot the hex viewer tools. Cracked by Quartex, and they kept the original date stamp for this file.

Thank you for solve this riddle.

Retro-Nerd · 23 September 2008, 18:16

It would have been easier if you had mentioned Gamebase Amiga a bit earlier.

mai · 23 September 2008, 18:24

The question still remains!
Exists a list about copy protected games?

Belgarath · 23 September 2008, 18:44

re: the Maya adf in GB Amiga. Cody played it all the way through so it's definitely 100%

dlfrsilver · 23 September 2008, 19:20

The silmarils protection called 'Starter' is a long track. The length of the track is tested, and passed in register D6 and then passed in D0.
Failing so means the game will crash right after the intro screen, or the intro itself.

This protection is generic, with any value superior to or equal to 18B8.

mai · 09 November 2008, 13:54

I am a little bit confused.
Is there any copy protection on disk, please tell me.
All Full Contact games in "Commodore Amiga - Games - [ADF] (TOSEC-v2006-10-19_CM)" have no [cr] flag.
Now i have found a version with cr-intro, where you can read, this version was cracked.
Maybe different versions were released, with and without copy protection.
Any help would be nice.

......adding screenshot

dlfrsilver · 09 November 2008, 14:37

Yes it is protected

It has a protection track on disk 1.

23 September 2008, 13:18	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,409	Maya is an Amiga DOS game. You could check the file date stamps. Compare it with SPS#1742. Edit: All files should dated with 08-Feb-87. You can also compare it with KillerGorilla's preinstalled English Version. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 23 September 2008 at 13:36.

23 September 2008, 16:18	#7
bippym Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 37 Posts: 8,142	If it is in TOSEC then a renamer somewhere should have checked it, but a lot of the earlier stuff managed to get through the net. There is a good chance the game isn't cracked properly, and as such probably doesn't work! __________________ Little Puddings Cakes - My fiancées hobby

23 September 2008, 19:20	#18
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-ExtADF Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 35 Posts: 4,601	The silmarils protection called 'Starter' is a long track. The length of the track is tested, and passed in register D6 and then passed in D0. Failing so means the game will crash right after the intro screen, or the intro itself. This protection is generic, with any value superior to or equal to 18B8. __________________ Denis

09 November 2008, 13:54	#19
mai ModCollector TOSEC member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stendal/Germany Age: 45 Posts: 3,639	Full Contact/Team 17 I am a little bit confused. Is there any copy protection on disk, please tell me. All Full Contact games in "Commodore Amiga - Games - [ADF] (TOSEC-v2006-10-19_CM)" have no [cr] flag. Now i have found a version with cr-intro, where you can read, this version was cracked. Maybe different versions were released, with and without copy protection. Any help would be nice. ......adding screenshot Attached Thumbnails

09 November 2008, 14:37	#20
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-ExtADF Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 35 Posts: 4,601	Yes it is protected It has a protection track on disk 1. __________________ Denis

23 September 2008, 13:11	#1
mai ModCollector TOSEC member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stendal/Germany Age: 45 Posts: 3,639	Copy protection? Is there a list of amigagames available, which games have protection? (physical, manual or no protection). Description: I have found "Fetiche Maya, Le" english version(ADF), is not in TOSEC yet, available in Gamebase Amiga. All french versions in TOSEC have [cr group] flags. But in the english version i am not able to figure out, if this game was cracked(no intro) or there was no copy protection. Please help, for exact TOSEC naming. Maybe this is an inspiration for HOL, to create a new entry.

23 September 2008, 15:35	#3
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 41 Posts: 1,680	SPS#1742 has on-disk protection.

23 September 2008, 15:40	#4
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,409	Long track protection?

23 September 2008, 17:40	#9
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,409	Gamebase Amiga says "cracked by Quartex". I have no clue how Belg could verify this, we have to wait for his answer.

23 September 2008, 17:58	#11
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,409	You need to install Gamebase v1.2 and then the Gamebase Amiga database. Yep, game works fine here too.

23 September 2008, 18:08	#12
mai ModCollector TOSEC member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stendal/Germany Age: 45 Posts: 3,639	OK, game is probably cracked by Quartex! I have checked exe-file with hex-viewer. There you can find "Quartex" string.

23 September 2008, 18:10	#13
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,409	Yep, just forgot the hex viewer tools. Cracked by Quartex, and they kept the original date stamp for this file.

23 September 2008, 18:16	#15
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,409	It would have been easier if you had mentioned Gamebase Amiga a bit earlier.

23 September 2008, 18:24	#16
mai ModCollector TOSEC member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stendal/Germany Age: 45 Posts: 3,639	The question still remains! Exists a list about copy protected games?

23 September 2008, 18:44	#17
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Here Posts: 2,135	re: the Maya adf in GB Amiga. Cody played it all the way through so it's definitely 100%

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