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trance007 23 June 2006 14:46

Background info about State of the Art - Spaceballs
 
Hi,

Maybe this info is well known to you, but I didn't saw it mentioned on the forum, so here it is.

The mag "R.A.W #5" included a nice article about the dancer of "State of the Art", as long as a "Making of".
Maybe it could be included in a future release of the DVD ?

I think this is an interesting piece of background info, isn't it ?

R.A.W #5 can be downloaded here : http://spaceballs.planet-d.net/files/spb-raw5.dms

Intro :
http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/5...50011js.th.png http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6...50024tt.th.png http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2...50035fh.th.png http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/3...50152yj.th.png
Dancer interview :
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/174...age17dw.th.gif http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/324...age22ve.th.gif http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/473...age30zk.th.gif
Making of :
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/761...age19em.th.gif http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6...age22ia.th.gif

Additionnally, a picture of Lone Starr is available here : http://spaceballs.planet-d.net/dancer.html

Hope it helps. ;)

redblade 24 June 2006 09:25

haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raw 5
Note to skidrow

This intro will work on most amigas so you don not have to crack this one


trance007 27 June 2006 23:23

Some funny statements found on R.A.W #5 :
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/341...50174wf.th.png http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4...50180rw.th.png http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8...50025uq.th.png

trance007 29 June 2006 10:12

I am rather surprised, but it looks like this demo was definitively not appreciated by the other groups.

Look what others said about this demo :
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/6...50010tg.th.png http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/1...50025vf.th.png http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3...50030mf.th.png http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6...50042qn.th.png

Trixter 05 July 2006 08:00

Not a surprise really, some of the comments are jealousy and others just don't like techno. You saw these comments back then for practically any demo. I remember reading one comment that Desert Dream was too long (!).

Galahad/FLT 05 July 2006 21:49

I agree, lots of groups jealous because Spaceballs did something a little different that garnered a lot of respect from people, for probably less effort than other groups were putting out.

At the end of the day, I couldn't give a toss how a demo is done, so long as the end result is impressive.

For sure Substance by Quartex (Alliance Design) is far more technical than State of the Art, but I know which one I'd rather revist....... and it aint the QTX one ;)

Are you the same Trixter as in Amiga coder?

paranoid 06 July 2006 20:22

State of the Art is one of my favorites.. I think demos should be judged on a few merits.. While that one may not win for displaying 50 million sprites or sine scrollers, it was still quite entertaining. I can appreciate pushing the hardware, but that's not all a demo is.. As a prime example, a vector sphere might be difficult to do but ... in the end it looks just like a circle and nothing more, even with lighting; I'm watching a demo, not reading source code. :p

caffeinekid 06 July 2006 20:30

State of the Art is still my favourite ever Amiga demo so they did something right. :D

commie1974 07 July 2006 22:15

This demo made all non-amigans back then (and I think it still does) pulling their hair of envy, hehe :)

blade002 08 July 2006 11:31

Yeah i used to wonder about the girls in State of the Art. And that picture of that dancer is hhmmmm yummmm.. she is damn fine!. :)

I miss those diskmags :(

Trixter 14 July 2006 09:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT
Are you the same Trixter as in Amiga coder?

Nope, I'm the PC coder. (Trixter / Hornet).

BTW, I'd really like to check out the flashback DVD... is it available anywhere?

phoenix 15 July 2006 02:11

Quote:

Not a surprise really, some of the comments are jealousy and others just don't like techno. You saw these comments back then for practically any demo. I remember reading one comment that Desert Dream was too long (!).
It was too long. :)

Seriously, the soundtrack is phenomenal, but for the most part, they just didn't have the visual action to match it. I know I'm not looking at it with 1993 eyes, but did we have to see the dots and circles for that many minutes?

-phoenix, your humble blasphemer

BippyM 15 July 2006 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trixter
Nope, I'm the PC coder. (Trixter / Hornet).

BTW, I'd really like to check out the flashback DVD... is it available anywhere?

Okay I've gotta take the kids to the park (family time etc) but when I get back I'll re-create the torrent on pirate bay and seed again for a week or so!

Don't expect any huge speeds though

Trixter 18 July 2006 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix
It was too long. :)

Seriously, the soundtrack is phenomenal, but for the most part, they just didn't have the visual action to match it. I know I'm not looking at it with 1993 eyes, but did we have to see the dots and circles for that many minutes?

-phoenix, your humble blasphemer

The opening part was indeed unnecessary (the whole egypt thing) but as soon as the Desert Dream logo starts bouncing and rotating, it's golden up until the credits.

It's definitely a coder's demo, so being a coder helps to keep up the interest :-)

Galahad/FLT 18 July 2006 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trixter
Nope, I'm the PC coder. (Trixter / Hornet).

BTW, I'd really like to check out the flashback DVD... is it available anywhere?


There was a UK guy on the Amiga with the same handle ;)

Trixter 19 July 2006 05:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT
There was a UK guy on the Amiga with the same handle ;)

Well, I've been Trixter since trading warez in 1986 -- no idea who the UK guy is :-)

Photon 30 December 2009 23:57

SotA perfectly explains the chasm between Amiga coders busting their butts to make something impressive for Amiga, and someone who makes something that impresses people from all platforms. There's something to be said for both - both try to make something new and better. With a great new idea, it doesn't really matter so much if the coding is the state of the art.

Thx to Lizard for linking to this old thread :)

Frog 31 December 2009 21:38

for those who never see it, 9 fingers making of

cosmicfrog 01 January 2010 03:10

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...fingers+making

Kitty 01 January 2010 19:00

Quote:

R.A.W #5 can be downloaded here : http://spaceballs.planet-d.net/files/spb-raw5.dms
Dead Link :( Anyone got a new link to this diskmag please?


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