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kipper2k 07 May 2012 13:55

A600 4MB RAM upgrade board (was 8MB)
 
Hi All,

I found this page while trolling...

http://lvd.nedopc.com/Projects/a600_8mb/index.html

it is a design done in 2007 for an 8mb ram upgrade for an A600 and i am wondering if anyone has the eagle cad files/info/anything about this board. if parts/help vailable i'd like to try this, no promises, i have a lot on my plate at the moment but i think it would be a good ptoject. I know that there was a 2008 upgrade to this board but can't find anything

UPDATE;

I have now updated the a600 4mb board to 8mb. if you'd like to skip all earlier info then click on the link below to get latest details

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=310

cpiac64 07 May 2012 14:07

the 4 mega version is ok, the 8 mega i suppose is only for sale

Predseda 07 May 2012 14:14

contact Zetr0 over Amibay, he should be able to tell you more. This is one of the failed projects and probably a reason why Zetr0 doesnt appear on EAB anymore :(

alexh 07 May 2012 14:15

Zetr0 will have them. He had a deal with LordV and AcidRain to remake the 2008 version.

A mistake crept into the re-designed PCB and ruined the whole batch. Probably cost a lot of money!

Here is the original 2008 page.

http://lvd.nedopc.com/Projects/a600_8mb_2/index.html

kipper2k 07 May 2012 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh (Post 816936)
Zetro will have them. He had a deal with LordV to remake the 2008 version.

A mistake crept into the re-designed PCB and ruined the whole batch.

http://lvd.nedopc.com/Projects/a600_8mb_2/index.html

Hi Alexh,

I remember that, something about the omitted ground plane. I haven't seen any activity from Zetr0 for a while. I'll try to get hold of him and see if he has anything

Thanks

alexh 07 May 2012 14:21

I imagine that making a low cost PCMCIA SRAM card might be as easy and as much use for A600 users. Half length??

Arnie 07 May 2012 14:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh (Post 816940)
I imagine that making a low cost PCMCIA SRAM card might be as easy and as much use for A600 users. Half length??

Even half the cost would be helpful :)

spock-79 07 May 2012 18:45

I made three collective orders at a1k.org. The 2007 Version works really good, is easy to solder and there is also a firmware for 4MB. With the 4MB firmware PCMCIA is still working!


For me it's the perfekt A600 RAM-Expansion. One expansion with 4MB costs ~26€, 8MB was ~32€, pending on ordered PCBs and the price of the RAM ICs.

fitzsteve 07 May 2012 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by spock-79 (Post 816977)
I made three collective orders at a1k.org. The 2007 Version works really good, is easy to solder and there is also a firmware for 4MB. With the 4MB firmware PCMCIA is still working!


For me it's the perfekt A600 RAM-Expansion. One expansion with 4MB costs ~26€, 8MB was ~32€, pending on ordered PCBs and the price of the RAM ICs.


Maybe we could do a group buy for kits for assembly by the end user or an EAB'er could do them for a small fee?

I would buy a couple of kits :)

spock-79 07 May 2012 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve (Post 816985)
Maybe we could do a group buy for kits for assembly by the end user or an EAB'er could do them for a small fee?

I would buy a couple of kits :)


Sure we can! I have ordered 30 PCBs, all needed parts to assemble the expansion are already here. The PCBs should normally arrive until end of may.
Programming the CPLD is also no problem.

But i have to sort out how much expansions are already sold...

On Amibay i posted a little HowTo for building the expansion:
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=13132


And yes, my english is awful... Especially when it comes to technical things..

kipper2k 07 May 2012 20:16

i can assemble these, What would be the cost of the boards plus the parts ?. if people want them assembled i can assemble them. 4mb is good enough for WHDload games and allowing those apps that require fast ram to run.

I could get the boards made pretty cheaply too :)

alenppc 07 May 2012 20:57

Making anything for the poor 600 is a good idea, but I think the major issue is the 68000 here. Adding a 68020 would be a major boost in power and usefulness. There was a dude on Amiga.org a few years ago who bought a whole bunch of 14 MHz 68EC020s (250 or so?) on ebay with the intention of developing something for the 600. Wonder whatever happened with that.

Allen1 07 May 2012 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k (Post 816999)
i can assemble these, What would be the cost of the boards plus the parts ?. if people want them assembled i can assemble them. 4mb is good enough for WHDload games and allowing those apps that require fast ram to run.

I could get the boards made pretty cheaply too :)

I know that I would be interested in a couple of these either assembled or in kit form, assembled would be the easiest method though :great

duga 07 May 2012 22:21

Interested in 4 MB version.

spock-79 07 May 2012 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k (Post 816999)
i can assemble these, What would be the cost of the boards plus the parts ?. if people want them assembled i can assemble them. 4mb is good enough for WHDload games and allowing those apps that require fast ram to run.

I could get the boards made pretty cheaply too :)


Pending on customs duty and shipping costs, one PCB will be around 5€.

But this time it was really hard to find a big amount of cheap RAM ICs, and i had to pay custom duty for the CPLDs (they came from digikey).

So one 4MB expansion is about 26€, 8MB 32€.

I earn nothing on the expansions, even if somebody wants a assembled unit the price is the same.

kipper2k 07 May 2012 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by spock-79 (Post 817048)
Pending on customs duty and shipping costs, one PCB will be around 5€.

But this time it was really hard to find a big amount of cheap RAM ICs, and i had to pay custom duty for the CPLDs (they came from digikey).

So one 4MB expansion is about 26€, 8MB 32€.

I earn nothing on the expansions, even if somebody wants a assembled unit the price is the same.


I wouldn't have to pay duty on the cpld's. Are compatible ram chips available from digikey ? and if so, part numbers :)

spock-79 07 May 2012 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k (Post 817050)
I wouldn't have to pay duty on the cpld's. Are compatible ram chips available from digikey ? and if so, part numbers :)


No, the ram chips aren't available at digikey. Only FPM ram in 42 pin SOJ package is possible on this expansion, for example HY5118160

kipper2k 08 May 2012 01:03

what about this memory ...

http://download.siliconexpert.com/pd...118(6)160c.pdf

in the 42 pin SOJ format

spock-79 08 May 2012 06:21

That should be the right ram chips. Every 42 pin Ram chip with 8160 in his part number should work.

alexh 08 May 2012 07:35

If I remember correctly the problem with the 2007 version is the physical fit? Which was why the 2008 version is a dual PCB board.

How bad is it?


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