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Sim085 16 October 2019 22:38

SysInfo reports 68010 as being 68000. Is this normal?
 
Hello, so the 68010 I ordered arrived. Popped into an A500, switched in and everything booted fine. Tried SysInfo and this reports it as a 68000. Tried WhichAmiga and this reports the 68010 as 68000.

Is this normal? If yes, how can I tell if this is really a 68010 cpu and not a 68000?

The printing on the CPU does state it is a 68010.

malko 16 October 2019 23:32

Try jotd's JST. If QuitKey is working it's a 68010 :)

esel 17 October 2019 03:43

No it is Not normal that a 68010 Shows up as 68000.
Sounds like a china Fake cpu.
Can you Post a picture of the cpu ?

malko 17 October 2019 09:24

I forgot to mention but Workbench can help you identify your material.

WB 1.3 -> Tools/PerfMon (see the attached screenshot here)
WB 2+ & WB 3+ -> Tools/ShowConfig

Check as well what these tools return. What do you get ?

malko 17 October 2019 09:34

There is also ross' "vbr.68k" that you can run and check the resulting GURU :)

Sim085 17 October 2019 12:07

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Here is photo of CPU.



Quote:

Originally Posted by esel (Post 1351956)
No it is Not normal that a 68010 Shows up as 68000.
Sounds like a china Fake cpu.
Can you Post a picture of the cpu ?


Sim085 17 October 2019 12:11

Sorry for the newb question, but how do I do this? Just type those two lines in Shell?



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Originally Posted by malko (Post 1351979)
There is also ross' "vbr.68k" that you can run and check the resulting GURU :)


malko 17 October 2019 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sim085 (Post 1352011)
Sorry for the newb question, but how do I do this? Just type those two lines in Shell?

No problem :) . No, you have to download ross' attachment from the link (file "vbr.68k") and run it from the shell (it's an amiga executable file)

Jope 17 October 2019 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sim085 (Post 1352010)
Here is photo of CPU.

That looks very much remarked. :-(

esel 17 October 2019 16:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sim085 (Post 1352010)
Here is photo of CPU.

Wow that is a Bad Fake.
Thats Just a relabeled 68000.
Hope cpu was Not expensive.

roondar 17 October 2019 17:30

Best I not go buying CPU's off e-bay any time soon then as I'd have fallen for that hook, line and sinker... So... How do you spot it's a relabeled one?

Sim085 17 October 2019 19:32

ok, by using vbr.68k I can confirm that this is a FAKE!

Quote:

Originally Posted by malko (Post 1351979)
There is also ross' "vbr.68k" that you can run and check the resulting GURU :)

It was pretty cheap which is why I tried it out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by esel (Post 1352054)
Wow that is a Bad Fake.
Thats Just a relabeled 68000.
Hope cpu was Not expensive.

The CPU sent to me does not look like the one in the image on the ebay seller so you cannot use that to recognize a real from a fake one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by roondar (Post 1352081)
How do you spot it's a relabeled one?


esel 17 October 2019 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sim085 (Post 1352105)


The CPU sent to me does not look like the one in the image on the ebay seller so you cannot use that to recognize a real from a fake one.


thats normal... the image of the cpu is a real 010 but you will get another cpu. the pic in the auction is just a random pic from the internet.

But sadly almost all cpus from china are relabled/ fake cpus.

SteveMoody 17 October 2019 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by esel (Post 1352106)
thats normal... the image of the cpu is a real 010 but you will get another cpu. the pic in the auction is just a random pic from the internet.

But sadly almost all cpus from china are relabled/ fake cpus.


I've bought a few not long ago, will hav to check them out i think

rare_j 17 October 2019 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by roondar (Post 1352081)
So... How do you spot it's a relabeled one?

Yeah I would be none the wiser as well. Really interested as to how you can tell.

Sim085 17 October 2019 22:16

By looking at the fake 68010 and compare this with the original 68000 I would say they use something like a sandpaper to remove the original markings and then they place new markings.

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Originally Posted by rare_j (Post 1352130)
Yeah I would be none the wiser as well. Really interested as to how you can tell.


rare_j 17 October 2019 23:47

Thanks for the tip, will look out for this.

Jope 18 October 2019 09:26

When the markings are engraved like that, it's almost never an original chip.. They printed the markings with some kind of stamp printer or whatever back in the day.

demolition 18 October 2019 14:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by esel (Post 1352106)
But sadly almost all cpus from china are relabled/ fake cpus.

I have bought cheap 68010s a couple of times from chinese sellers on ebay and so far they have all been genuine. I know that the more expensive CPUs are often fakes (68060 are probably >95% fakes), but I wouldn't have thought that it would be worthwhile to relabel these cheap CPUs.

Mathesar 23 October 2019 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sim085 (Post 1352010)
Here is photo of CPU.

Mine looked like that as well. Sandpapered and remarked…
But, mine was genuine!


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