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Seiya 18 December 2019 13:35

Games that not work or are bugged on Vampire Card
 
I'd like to create a list or database with games that not working or working bad on Vampire Card in way that can be fixed or avoid if you know that there is no hope to use it.

if you interested you should indicate the "core", the "Vampire model" and because not work or bug.

Seiya 18 December 2019 14:07

Legend:
Not Working in Red
Slow in Orange
Working with bug in DarkOliveGreen
Too fast to be played in Indigo

When a game will be fixed to run excellent i delete from this list.

Agony, WHDLoad, A600 V2.2, Core 2.11 = Not Working using Roadshow Stack TCP/IP in background (you must disconnect from internet to play this game)
Alien Breed 3D = not working
Elite, A500 V2, Core 2.11, Coffin R54 = Not Working (it is not reported if it is WHDLoad)
Frontier, WHDLoad =Slow
Frontier, HardDisk = Working, but bugged in auto-pilot and so you cannot travel to various Planets/Solar Systems
Gunship, A500 V2, Core 2.11, Coffin R54 = Not Working (it is not reported if it is WHDLoad)
Hard Drivin' = Working, but too fast to be played
T.F.X., V4/SA, x12 (85 Mhz) =Working with glitches
Wing Commander, WHDLoad = Slow

Retro1234 18 December 2019 21:03

Would a thread for games that don't work or have problems be smaller/better.

Also these might be problems that exist with any Accelerator and might be fixed with WHDload.

Seiya 19 December 2019 04:45

yes, true. maybe, better find games that doesn't work. now i change topic to be more easy

DamienD 19 December 2019 10:33

Thread title updated accordingly for you Seiya.

daxb 19 December 2019 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro1234 (Post 1366006)
Would a thread for games that don't work or have problems be smaller/better.

You only know it when you have tested all existing games. :) So a list all games and marked as tested or not would be nice.

Dr_Procton 19 December 2019 15:54

This Seiya guy is obsessed by Vampire. He spreads everywhere his hate against Vampire, now after his silly attempt on Italian forum we have his obsessions here. Someday maybe he will buy a Vampire and test it for our pleasure. For everyone here is better to know that this thread is not meant to support vampire users but to reinforce this guy's theories of incompatibilities and use this as a weapon in his holy battle against Vampire and his users. This guy Is the jester that says everywhere that Gunnar doesn't have an idea on how an Amiga works (he's the one with Troll's avatar here's below for who wants to read) .
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=1&note=17502&order=&x=7

d4rk3lf 19 December 2019 16:34

Troll or not, these kind of threads could REALLY help developers make some adjustments.
I've heard that Alien Breed 3D 1 is not working (AB3D2 is working). It would be good if that is fixed.
Too bad that game can't run with 1x1 pixel at all, it would be great to see it on a Vampire

Dr_Procton 19 December 2019 16:47

Ask Seiya.

Dunny 19 December 2019 16:56

Actually, a comprehensive list of games with their incompatibilities would be excellent -

Runs on a Vampire?
Plays with an 060 installed? Caches or no caches?
68040 compatible?
Runs with an extra drive attached?
Requires certain version of Kickstart?

That sort of thing. I'm sure we're all well aware that every accelerator card in the history of the Amiga rendered some games unusable, the Vampire is certainly not alone in this.

Dr_Procton 19 December 2019 17:12

Seiya will test every software for you.
Just ask for the service.

Dunny 19 December 2019 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_Procton (Post 1366214)
Seiya will test every software for you.
Just ask for the service.

I never realised that Seiya was such a Vampire enthusiast. He should do promotional videos for them.

Dr_Procton 19 December 2019 21:28

No need of videos. He's a living promotional flyer for Vampire

DamienD 19 December 2019 21:33

Can we drop it now please and get back on topic?

You've made your point Dr_Procton... numerous times.

Seiya 20 December 2019 03:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunny (Post 1366258)
I never realised that Seiya was such a Vampire enthusiast. He should do promotional videos for them.

sure, maybe i'll do it or to make this topic more nice. i have some good element to a video promo. i'll see after Xmas.

@DamienD
thanks for adjusting topic names

@all

i have read that there is some issue on Vampire with Frontier WHD and Frontier directly from HD, but some vampire users should be try again.
Sometimes WHD games are set for "68000 compatibility mode" so you see a very reduced performance also than 68030. In this case some users has seen that launching from HD it works great, but there is a bug in auto-pilot (doesn't work).

the second post i used to update this list with various colors. So for now i inserted some games reported by various vampire users, but of course they must be played again to confirm.

Jope 20 December 2019 10:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seiya (Post 1365915)
When a game will be fixed to run excellent i delete from this list.

If it works on a genuine motorola chip but not on the vampire, why not open a bug report with the vampire people so they can fix their implementation instead of fixing the software?

That way there's only one place that needs to be fixed, and vampire's compatibility with original motorola designs gets better, helping many other pieces of software to work..

Bren McGuire 20 December 2019 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_Procton (Post 1366180)
This Seiya guy is obsessed by Vampire. He spreads everywhere his hate against Vampire, now after his silly attempt on Italian forum we have his obsessions here.

I think the only thing not helpful, actually not very nice, here, is you.
Vampire is very incompatible, this should be no news to anyone. Even 030s and 060s were very incompatible with old games. That's why WHDLoad was made.

It'd be great to have a comprehensive list of what's going on but it seems like a fool's errand since the Amiga library is so vast.

Of course it'd be better if Vampire ran everything but that's not gonna happen ever.

Also this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope (Post 1366331)
If it works on a genuine motorola chip but not on the vampire, why not open a bug report with the vampire people so they can fix their implementation instead of fixing the software?

Why fix a game? The game isn't broken, the Vampire is.

Dr_Procton 20 December 2019 18:22

Vampire is broken..? I Love this thread

Retro1234 20 December 2019 18:36

Theres no way doing it like this of distinguishing if the problem is Vampire only or exists on any Accelerator ?

Omolungo 20 December 2019 23:10

Alien Breed 3D is an AGA game, it's natural it doesn't work on Vampire... any AGA game works on the Vampire, unless Seiya is talking about V4, but he doesn't own a V2 (any model) nor a V4.

@Seiya: please, specify for each game Vampire model and core version (also Coffin and whdload release would be helpful for the completeness of the list)


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