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DamienD 01 June 2018 00:31

Created this new thread and copied posts out of the Amiga Game Development Contest one as I think we need to keep track of all pledged prize money so far etc... ;)

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Member              Amount        Status 
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E-Penguin:          20 Euros      PAID
LeCaravage:        15 Euros      PAID
Alpha One:          50 Euros      PAID
mcgeezer:          50 Euros      PAID
robinsonb5:        50 Euros      PAID
DamienD:          200 Euros      PAID
Amiten:            50 Euros      N/A
sokolovic:          20 Euros
darkwave:          40 Euros      PAID
Ian:                5 Euros      PAID
DamienD:          500 Euros      PAID
ReadOnlyCat:        50 Euros      PAID
Nightshft:          20 Euros      PAID
aszu:              15 Euros      PAID
funK:              80 Euros      PAID
spud:              25 Euros      PAID
Reido:              25 Euros      PAID

Total so far: 1145 Euros

Shatterhand 02 June 2018 00:47

E-Penguin 10 Euros
LeCaravage 15 Euros
Alpha One 50 Euros
McGeezer 50 Euros
Robisonb5 50 Euros

DamienD 02 June 2018 11:19

Ok, you can put me down for €200 ;)

E-Penguin 02 June 2018 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shatterhand (Post 1246013)
E-Penguin 10 Euros

OK now I feel cheap - better up that to €20.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaMax (Post 1245965)
You're the first adult I ever heard claim to never have completed a game.

I just never really had the skills or patience to see it through. I only ever got past level 1 by cheating, on most games. I enjoy playing the games, I just suck at it.

Shatterhand 02 June 2018 16:50

Wow DamienD, that's a very nice contribution :)

E-Penguin 20 Euros
LeCaravage 15 Euros
Alpha One 50 Euros
McGeezer 50 Euros
Robisonb5 50 Euros
DamienD 200 Euros
Total so far: 385 Euros

can someone setup a Paypal account so we can gather all donations somewhere? (I also can do it if no one steps in)

I really don't want to setup the contest since I want to take part of it, but if no one steps up I'll end up doing it :)

Those are some things I've been thinking about rules:

* for a first edition, while I like the idea of the 3 different categories, I also agree it could be better to have just a single "Anything goes" category, and we expect the Jury to consider if the game asks too much hardware to deliver too little one aspect to judge the games.

* Games should be distributed in .ADF format and should be 100% free in digital format. I dunno what you guys think about the devs releasing the games they use on the contest on physical format (charging for the game obviously), and if the devs could ask for donations or a fee to register, AS LONG AS the game has all features and it's 100% playable from a 100% free version. (Registering could just add the name of the user in the game or soemthing like this).

* We have to consider if games should be all made by a single guy or if teams can be assembled, and if teams should have a size limit.

* If free assets can be used on the game and if this would have an impact on the final grade or not.

* Duration of the contest... when do we start, when do we begin receiving entries and when do we end

* Do we have a jury (and who wants to be part of it - MSX Dev don't let any donors or participants of the contest to be part of it?) or games will be judged by the whole community? (I'd prefer the Jury way). How will the grading be done? - I thought each juror could grade the game in 4 aspects:
Graphics (0 to 5), Sound (0 to 5), Technical Aspects (0 to 5) and Gameplay (0 to 15). This would give a total of 30 possible points for each game (from each juror) , giving more weight for how well the game plays and how fun it its than the other aspects.

Or maybe each member of the jury could just give a 0 to 10 grade for each game, add the grades of each member and you have a final score.

* How will the prizes be given? (I like the MSX dev format.. 1st place get 50% of the donations, 2nd place gets 30% and 3rd place gets 20%). I'd like to add that I see no problem of a donor also being a contestant.


Any considerations / ideas?

Shatterhand 03 June 2018 17:55

E-Penguin 20 Euros
LeCaravage 15 Euros
Alpha One 50 Euros
McGeezer 50 Euros
Robisonb5 50 Euros
DamienD 200 Euros
Amiten 50 Euros
Total so far: 435 Euros

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigajay (Post 1246200)
I concur, i think just one open category would be best, if/when it should grow then re-evaluate then, but the judges should take in mind how much effort has gone into a certain game, or how many people were involved, it should just be down to the judges to judge based on a number of factors, the first being is the game fun to play!?

I must say I am inclined to this direction too, at least for a first contest. Open category, let judges weight in on their final vote all those aspects. (Is the game a port? Does it use "stoles" assets? Was it made by a huge team? etc)

Like I said, I think each judge could using those factors:

Graphics: A grade between 0 and 5
Sounds: A grade between 0 and 5
Technical Aspects (Give me a better name for this please :D ): a grade between 0 and 5
Gameplay: A grade between 0 and 15

This will give a total score of 30 per game per each judge. If 2 or more games are tied, the total on Gameplay should be the tie-breaker.

Then we add those rules:

If the game...:

Uses "stolen" art: loses 1 point on graphics and 1 point on technical
Uses free mods: loses 1 point on graphics and 1 point on technical
Is a port: loses 1 point on technical
Needs more hardware than it really should: Loses 3 points on technical
Was fully made by a single guy: Earns 1 point on technical



And the graphical aspect should be judged against on what chipset the game is running. It's obviously easier to do a prettier game on AGA than on OCS/ECS.

Amiten 05 June 2018 14:56

Penguin :20 Euros

LeCaravage :15 Euros

Alpha One :50 Euros

McGeezer :50 Euros

Robisonb5: 50 Euros

DamienD: 200 Euros

Amiten :50 Euros

Sokolovic: 20 Euros

Total so far: 455 Euros

Shatterhand 06 June 2018 23:55

E-Penguin: 20 Euros
LeCaravage: 15 Euros
Alpha One: 50 Euros
McGeezer: 50 Euros
Robisonb5: 50 Euros
DamienD: 200 Euros
Amiten: 50 Euros
Sokolovic: 20 Euros
Darkwave: 40 Euros
Total so far: 495 Euros

Ian 01 August 2018 23:04

I will add 5 Euros to make it a nice round number.

€500.

DamienD 02 August 2018 00:04

ROFL :lol :lol :lol

...nice one Ian :blased

Ian 02 August 2018 00:13

Hey, I have a 4 year old that is into (Disney) Cars toys, have you seen how much they cost and how many of them there are ;)

malko 15 August 2018 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian (Post 1258234)
Hey, I have a 4 year old that is into (Disney) Cars toys, have you seen how much they cost and how many of them there are ;)

Play "Loom" with him ;) .
You will save money from Disney :D (who is actually also the owner of all LucasArt's adventure games...)

DamienD 23 August 2018 22:31

Hmmm, maybe we need to up the ante in order to get more people involved / interested.

I'll donate another €500 to the prize pool :agree

mcgeezer 23 August 2018 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD (Post 1263690)
Hmmm, maybe we need to up the ante in order to get more people involved / interested.

I'll donate another €500 to the prize pool :agree

WHOAAAAAA...... :)

I best up my coding skills!

How's about getting this on the Vintage is the new old site or Indie Retro News...? It would gain a bit traction then. Perhaps get them to sponsor it or something?

This could be Shatterhands' thunder though.

DamienD 23 August 2018 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgeezer (Post 1263701)
How's about getting this on the Vintage is the new old site or Indie Retro News...? It would gain a bit traction then. Perhaps get them to sponsor it or something?

I'm sure Neil79 has already read this thread but I can ask him to please publicise on Indie Retro News I guess ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgeezer (Post 1263701)
This could be Shatterhands' thunder though.

...both Shatterhand and Akira have disappeared off the face of the Earth; maybe they are working hard on an entry :p

mcgeezer 23 August 2018 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD (Post 1263706)
I'm sure Neil79 has already read this thread but I can ask him to please publicise on Indie Retro News I guess ;)


...both Shatterhand and Akira have disappeared off the face of the Earth; maybe they are working hard on an entry :p

Yeah - I think Kitty runs VITNO so might be worth a nudge to her.

I honestly thought Akira was banned for some reason, maybe he just left I guess. Hope both of them are OK.

DamienD 23 August 2018 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgeezer (Post 1263711)
Yeah - I think Kitty runs VITNO so might be worth a nudge to her.

Sure, Kitty is my friend so can drop her a PM ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgeezer (Post 1263711)
I honestly thought Akira was banned for some reason, maybe he just left I guess. Hope both of them are OK.

I'm sure they are both ok; everyone needs a break...

I went AWOL for 6 years from 2009 - 2015 and didn't look once at EAB / touch anything Amiga :p

phx 24 August 2018 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD (Post 1263690)
I'll donate another €500 to the prize pool :agree

You are completely crazy (in a positive way)! :D


Unfortunately it doesn't motivate me to take part, because my new game is finished now and will probably be first shown at the "Function" demo party in Budapest.

DamienD 24 August 2018 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by phx (Post 1263882)
You are completely crazy (in a positive way)! :D

Yeah probably :cheese

...but I like to support the Amiga community and if I can, provide incentives.

Plus I always put my money where my mouth is and don't make false promises that I can't keep ;)

Ian 24 August 2018 19:59

Shatterhand PM'd me last night, he's been busy, but as expected should be back to take control in september.

I let him know we opened up for entries, and I'm sure he would be grateful for all the attention that can be garnered.

One day I will also be a consultant IT specialist earning the big bucks, not working for a education establishment.


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