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CU_AMiGA 11 January 2005 16:39

Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo - The Greatest Amiga Gaming Casualty?
 
Hello

I managed to access SSFT2 yesterday, installed it on HD (it had 11 disks!). I have encountered a few problems.

It has no music, samples. Just SFX
Non of the original character colours are availablt to choose
The games seems to run slow and jerky

My Amiga setup is Amiga 1200 AGA, Blizzard 1260, 64meg RAM and 4gig HD.

Can anyone help/answer these problems.

Best Regards,

Bamiga2002 11 January 2005 17:05

It's a rip of the CD version so it doesn't have the music, and the game sucks in my opinion. Movements are really jerky and it doesn't help that the graphics are good. I can't get the joystick controls to work, i have to use keyboard for punching and kicking :blased.

CU_AMiGA 11 January 2005 17:34

@Bamiga2002

Does a FD version (with music) exist? I use a CD32 pad, it works perfectly, i can pull of all the moves. But the game seems to run slow and jerky! The readme file says the game makes use of more memory and turbo boards. I would imagine an 060 and 64MB RAM is more than capable of running this.

Regards,

Peanutuk 11 January 2005 17:36

I dont' understand the title of your thread

CU_AMiGA 11 January 2005 17:40

The title suggest the game could have been so good (maybe along par with SNES or Saturn SFs), but seemed to be rushed at the last minute.

Peanutuk 11 January 2005 18:53

I see, but weren't they alwasy going to make it for the minimum spec in order to make the most money?

Bamiga2002 11 January 2005 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peanutuk
I see, but weren't they alwasy going to make it for the minimum spec in order to make the most money?

Yeah, this plagued many games on Amiga (for example Primal Rage, Mortal Kombat 2, IMO). Red Baron could have had better graphics, like in the PC version.

Mick_AKA 12 January 2005 23:11

Come on now, Primal Rage was crap on everything! The jerky SNES version used to drive me nuts :banghead

Bamiga2002 13 January 2005 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick_AKA
Come on now, Primal Rage was crap on everything! The jerky SNES version used to drive me nuts :banghead

But i liked the coin-op, so i wanted to like the Amiga version too, u know...:)

Akira 13 January 2005 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by CU_AMiGA
\Does a FD version (with music) exist?\

Yes, but the gfx look like shit, but it is quite playable IMO and a decent SSF2 clone.

Look for Super Street Fighter 2 AGA.

CU_AMiGA 14 January 2005 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira
Yes, but the gfx look like shit, but it is quite playable IMO and a decent SSF2 clone.

Look for Super Street Fighter 2 AGA.

I think that could be a previous version you're thinking of (the 7 disk version). The one i am after is the next one (11 disk version).

Best Regards,

Akira 14 January 2005 15:16

Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo does NOT EXIST on floppy disk.
Super Street Fighter 2 does exist on flopy disk.

derSammler 14 January 2005 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira
Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo does NOT EXIST on floppy disk.

That's nonsense. It does exist on floppy (http://hol.abime.net/?id=2214) and it's even preserved by CAPS.

Akira 14 January 2005 19:54

It's said here that i was just a rip off the CD. Sorry

Muzkat 20 January 2005 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamiga2002
Yeah, this plagued many games on Amiga (for example Primal Rage, Mortal Kombat 2, IMO). Red Baron could have had better graphics, like in the PC version.

I think they pulled off MK II quite well.

SSF2 is another story. :rolleyes

I always thought they were gunning for faster gameplay (which was what later SFII titles were all about) by reducing sprite sizes, graphics quality, sound quality, etc. I remember the first SFII on Amiga (World Warrior) was criticised for being too slow.

spiff 20 January 2005 12:28

What annoyed me the most was that megadrive/genesis got a great version that played just fine, and looks great most of the time.
Then again the same thing happened to most conversions, strider being the prime example. The amiga developers just didn’t give a shit.

CU_AMiGA 02 February 2005 18:57

Someone must track down the download for the disk version of this game! :)

Regards,

Bamiga2002 03 February 2005 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiff
What annoyed me the most was that megadrive/genesis got a great version that played just fine, and looks great most of the time.
Then again the same thing happened to most conversions, strider being the prime example. The amiga developers just didn’t give a shit.

Altered Beast megadrive = very good, Amiga = rather ok
Ghouls'n Ghosts megadrive = good, Amiga = quite bad.

dlfrsilver 04 February 2005 00:56

You know what i'm pretty sure they didn't use the custom ship!!!

We know that the amiga is able to work out a game like street fighter 2....

again a creep creative material shit !!!

Akira 04 February 2005 02:11

Err... there's no way to do anything in the Amiga without using custom chips.
And the Amiga does have some flaws that make it unable to pull SF2 perfectly.

Though I agree that the port is IMO very bad and could have been MUCH better, I think that it's also fair to note that the Amiga had issues that made this sort of game difficult to convert *exactly*.

Obviously, with the right choices made when making compromises at the time of porting, ANY game can be ported to ANy format and kept quite close to the original, this is where the programmers have failed. But then again lots of people might have moaned about the "lack of features" of this conversion, if made.

Just take a look at any of the NeoGeo Pocket Color games, as close as neogeo games as possible but with LOTS of tech compromises done on them, however they have not degraded one bit the playability and ovrall feel of the game. Those are what I call great ports.

If yo uare expcting a pixel-perfect, carbon-copy of SF2 on the Amiga, I am afraid it is impossible. A very good port, it's obviously posible.


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