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ZEUSDAZ 17 May 2018 03:01

FIRE & ICE vs SUPERFROG - WHICH IS BEST?
 
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Hi everyone and welcome to the May 2018 edition of the "Which Is Best?" series.

Last month I placed the two Amiga Chaos Engine games against asking you which in your minds was the better game and after counting all the votes I can now reveal the original Chaos Engine (suprise suprise) is the winner gaining 56 votes with Chaos Engine 2 receiving,...wait for it,....2 votes!
I don't think it's a case that Chaos 2 was a really bad game, I think it's more the fact that Chaos 1 was just a perfectly programmed game and set a bar so high that a sequel would always struggle to reach the same heights,...nonetheless it was a hammering!

This month I'm going to place the Amiga classics "Fire & Ice" and "Superfrog" games against each other, 2 great run and collect platformers, which game do you think is better?!,...only your votes will determine that https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/e...1/16/1f603.png



VOTING CLOSES 15th June 2018.


FIRE & FICE vs SUPERFROG VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUSsO6B7mhI

malko 17 May 2018 08:02

If a choice has to be done: Superfrog :great

ransom1122 17 May 2018 08:06

Superfrog. Fire & Ice is a little more slow paced.

chip 17 May 2018 08:21

Superfrog

Galahad/FLT 17 May 2018 08:44

Fire n Ice.

Whilst its not quite as technically adept as Superfrog in the scrolling department, I just find platformers where you rush around everywhere less statisfying, as its so easy to miss stuff, which then means you need to slow down, which isn't what Superfrog/Sonic is all about.

Leffmann 17 May 2018 09:31

I think Fire & Ice winds hands down, it has better graphics quality, sound, music, and level design. It's a bit more advanced on the technical side as well, with a bit of parallax scrolling, and its pseudo physics and game elements.

Superfrog does have 50 FPS scrolling, but it seems they sacrificed a lot just to build the whole game around that, and it doesn't work well because of how most levels are designed. Through much of the game you only get to sprint for a brief second before you have to stop and dodge stuff.

They should definitely have looked to Sonic for how to design levels around fast scrolling and game play.

Gordon 17 May 2018 10:34

I dont like either, but will go for Fire and Ice purly because I love the music from the piano playing Coyote.

andyhants 17 May 2018 11:14

Fire & Ice

Marle 17 May 2018 11:47

If I had to choose one, Fire & Ice, but I'm not really a massive fan of either.

I found Superfrog so dull and derivative sadly.

rothers 17 May 2018 12:06

I can't be the only person who thinks Superfrog is an awful game with terrible controls? I really don't understand the admiration it has. Fire and Ice vote from me!

fatbob_gb 17 May 2018 12:07

It would have to be Fire and Ice. Superfrog was OK but just too simplistic & easy.

CodyJarrett 17 May 2018 12:16

Fire & Ice.

daxb 17 May 2018 12:38

Fire & Ice because of the reasons already mentioned here.

kamelito 17 May 2018 13:48

Are you kidding?
SuperFrog is far better, the gameplay is just perfect. I've completed it back then and it is excellent.
Fire&Ice, too sluggish :(

deicidal 17 May 2018 14:42

Well I nearly completed Super Frog and i only played Fire and Ice a few times I will go with Super Frog, may well give Fire and Ice another bash at the weekend.

Paul_s 17 May 2018 18:43

Fire and Ice...

Years and years ago I would have said Superfrog... played it recently but don't find it interesting now.

jurassicman 17 May 2018 18:53

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Originally Posted by kamelito (Post 1241798)
Are you kidding?
SuperFrog is far better, the gameplay is just perfect. I've completed it back then and it is excellent.
Fire&Ice, too sluggish :(

I totally agree!
Superfrog for me! (completed back in the days...)

Akira 17 May 2018 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamelito (Post 1241798)
Are you kidding?
SuperFrog is far better, the gameplay is just perfect.

One of the Amiga's most overrated titles.
Gameplay is far from perfect, the character is uncontrollable, and level design is poor. They forcefully injected speed into it to "be like Sonic" with levels and gameplay elements that do NOT align with the speed the character can get. It turns the game into a pile of poop.
Sure, your frog can run fucking fast at 50FPS, but did it need to? Definitely not.
What's the use of speed if you can't, like in Sonic, run through a level at breakneck speeds because the level has been designed with speed in mind?

Fire & Ice is the more mature, better designed game, hands down. You can actually play and feel like you are in control, it has plenty of secrets to discover, exploration is well rewarded. The graphics and music are very cool too, while Superfrog looks bland and boring.

seuden 17 May 2018 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira (Post 1241877)
Gameplay is far from perfect, the character is uncontrollable, and level design is poor. They forcefully injected speed into it to "be like Sonic" with levels and gameplay elements that do NOT align with the speed the character can get. It turns the game into a pile of poop.
Sure, your frog can run fucking fast at 50FPS, but did it need to? Definitely not.
What's the use of speed if you can't, like in Sonic, run through a level at breakneck speeds because the level has been designed with speed in mind?

This. I really wanted to get into Superfrog but just couldn't.

Fire & Ice for me.

ovale 17 May 2018 21:00

Fire and Ice. Technically is impressive and the music is top quality. IIRC the high score music (or was the end game music) was awesome.


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