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TCD 06 September 2023 15:18

TCD magazine finds
 
Figured I start a thread for interesting things I find while going through various gaming magazines.

A Commodore ad for the 'whole cosmos of Amiga' in ASM 3/1987:
https://i.ibb.co/Cwj8Hk4/ASM-1987-03-94.jpg

TCD 07 September 2023 10:00

Some early Amiga sales numbers from Germany (ASM 10/1987):
https://i.ibb.co/F8pkjXn/ASM-1987-10-69.jpg

Amiga 1000: 25,000
Amiga 500: 28,000

One page later sales numbers of the ST in the UK:
https://i.ibb.co/CzqWRBB/ASM-1987-10-70.jpg

Atari ST: 45,000

TCD 20 September 2023 13:46

At end of 1989 the German magazine ASM had this to say:
https://i.ibb.co/zGtxtPm/ASM-1989-11-110.jpg

Amiga and PC: Up, ST and C64: Down.
In the 90s the consoles will get a big share of the market.

Just two years earlier the 'race' between Amiga and ST was open and the ST was 'booming'.

Megalomaniac 20 September 2023 14:22

So that's a couple of months before A500s actually hit the shelves in Germany (and a good 6 months before the UK and US)? Do we know how many STs sold in Germany by October 1987, compared to just over 50,000 Amigas? I assume they mean 'UK' when they say 'England'.

TCD 20 September 2023 14:37

I think by October 1987 the Amiga 500 was 'on shelves' in Germany. No idea about ST(e) sales in Germany at that point.

It's safe to assume that by 'England' they mean the whole UK, yes :)

TCD 05 October 2023 11:45

Just found a short statement that the CDTV wouldn't be available in 1990 in Germany (besides 2,000 'beta test machines'):
https://i.ibb.co/xXBs5Jd/ASM-1990-11-117.jpg

They don't too excited about the software offerings either...

TCD 05 October 2023 12:26

Thalion in trouble by the end of 1990:
https://i.ibb.co/FqhSBT0/ASM-1990-11-118.jpg

dlfrsilver 05 October 2023 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD (Post 1640524)
Some early Amiga sales numbers from Germany (ASM 10/1987):
https://i.ibb.co/F8pkjXn/ASM-1987-10-69.jpg

Amiga 1000: 25,000
Amiga 500: 28,000

One page later sales numbers of the ST in the UK:
https://i.ibb.co/CzqWRBB/ASM-1987-10-70.jpg

Atari ST: 45,000

45,000 ST sold in october 1987 in UK for 53,000 Amiga at the same time in Germany ?

TCD 05 October 2023 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver (Post 1646227)
45,000 ST sold in october 1987 in UK for 53,000 Amiga at the same time in Germany ?

Until October 1987.

TCD 05 October 2023 15:23

A comment about CES 1990:
https://i.ibb.co/wdKK49b/ASM-1990-11-127.jpg

To sum it up: Full price 8-bit titles are out, the future is Amiga - PC - consoles. Monopolies are bad for everybody.

Aulapatchuc 05 October 2023 15:42

Interesting finds TCD.

I was lurking to the first photo to see if I could find a C= key on place of the left -Amiga key. To no avail. :p

TCD 05 October 2023 17:46

I'm not a hardware person, but that's about some rare first A500 (or A2000) models, right?

Aulapatchuc 06 October 2023 10:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD (Post 1646260)
I'm not a hardware person, but that's about some rare first A500 (or A2000) models, right?

Exactly as you said TCD. :)

TCD 11 October 2023 12:50

Interesting comment about the CDTV in the German magazine ASM issue 3/1991:
https://i.ibb.co/PFS5vf7/ASM-1991-03-77.jpg

Rough summary: Commodore aims at a market segment that nobody else tries to occupy.

oscar_ates 11 October 2023 14:33

In other words, commodore aims at a market segment that does not exist :)

TCD 11 October 2023 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscar_ates (Post 1647434)
In other words, commodore aims at a market segment that does not exist :)

:great

TCD 14 October 2023 17:12

Can't find the thread it was mentioned in, but there was a comment mentioning that Amiga and Atari ST versions of the same game often got the same score in magazines. Here's one example where that wasn't the case (at all):
https://i.ibb.co/CsFPK5c/ASM-1991-06-106.jpg

The Amiga version's graphics got a 10 (out of 12) and the ST 7. That lead to the Amiga version gettting a 'hit' star from the magazine (ASM) and the ST version not.

TCD 20 October 2023 13:38

From ASM 11/1991:
https://i.ibb.co/QjX7XwZ/ASM-1991-11-042.jpg

"The power of two"
Rough summary: Strategy, adventure and simulation games are in, action games are out (this is in Germany).
The ST is out, the Amiga is in, the PC is in and still on the rise (no mention of the C64 anymore).
The consoles found their niche and benefit from conversions of popular computer titles.

oscar_ates 20 October 2023 15:53

After 1990, C64 disappeared from UK, Germany and USA right?

TCD 21 October 2023 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscar_ates (Post 1649272)
After 1990, C64 disappeared from UK, Germany and USA right?

According to Wikipedia it was produced until the very end of Commodore (April 1994). The main focus wouldn't be the UK, Germany, or the US, but I think you could still buy them new in those countries too.


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