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Borgy 25 August 2019 21:20

OSSC Smooth scrolling on Amigs
 
Hi folks

I wonder whether anyone has found a fix for this: I'm running my A1200 via OSSC onto an Led TV which looks stunning. However, when running side scrolling games (Turrican 2 for example) I get a noticeable scrolling 'stutter'. Same machine directly plugged into old LCD/monitors runs beautifully.
I'm using default OSSC settings under version 0.78a apart from having scanlines activated.

Is there a finer/detailed setting that could remedy?

Ta

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Retro-Nerd 25 August 2019 21:23

Enable the "Game" mode. This should disable any other digital processings for image enhancements. Every European LCD TV should be able to output 50Hz via HDMI.

Borgy 25 August 2019 21:25

Thanks. What menu setting is that under? Not spotted it anywhere.

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Retro-Nerd 25 August 2019 21:27

Well, some TV maker calls it slighty different. What model exactly? You should check the manual.

Borgy 25 August 2019 22:21

Ah I see. Yeah I've played with TV settings and also checked another high end TV with game mode. Still the same issue.
I think this is something to do with the ossc signal conversion.

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Galahad/FLT 25 August 2019 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borgy (Post 1341214)
Ah I see. Yeah I've played with TV settings and also checked another high end TV with game mode. Still the same issue.
I think this is something to do with the ossc signal conversion.

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Sounds like the TV is converting to 60hz (i.e. 60 frames per second) whereas Amiga PAL natively is 50hz (i.e. 50 frames per second).

Can you not modify the refresh rate for 50hz?

alpine9000 26 August 2019 01:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT (Post 1341226)
Sounds like the TV is converting to 60hz (i.e. 60 frames per second) whereas Amiga PAL natively is 50hz (i.e. 50 frames per second).

Can you not modify the refresh rate for 50hz?

Yep, when my TV is refreshing at 50hz fed from my OSSC the output is incredibly smooth when scrolling (assuming the game/demo scrolls a fixed number of pixels per frame).

Jope 26 August 2019 09:31

Do you have DVI or HDMI mode enabled in the OSSC? If DVI, the TV might be in some 60Hz only mode.

Borgy 26 August 2019 09:57

That is a very good point...hmmm...tv seems to say its at 50hz when Amiga switches resolution but maybe not. Not spotted a TV setting but will have another look.

Does anyone know any good 32 inch 50hz TVs that they'd recommend?

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Borgy 26 August 2019 09:58

Ps: will also check whether ossc is in DVI mode or not

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Daedalus 26 August 2019 10:07

Any TV in the UK should do 50Hz - that's the standard rate of all TV broadcasts in Europe. There seems to be something funky going on somewhere. Is there another TV you could even try it with?

demolition 26 August 2019 11:20

OSSC doesn't have a frame buffer so it cannot do frame rate conversion. Thus, the stutter must be caused by the TV. All TVs has to support 50 Hz through HDMI, however it is not mandatory that it has to be stutter-free. In my experience though, almost all TVs can provide a decent 50 Hz image is they are set up correctly. Put the TV into 'Game' mode if possible (helps with latency), alternatively a cinema or theater mode could work however they will usually have higher latency. Disable most/all video processing such as 'intelligent frame rate conversion' etc. Also, if it says 'dynamic' - disable it.

Higgy 26 August 2019 21:43

Borgy you probably want to update your OSSC firmware also. Its on 0.83a now.

Look under Firmware Update here for instructions:

http://junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php?title=OSSC

spudje 27 August 2019 09:19

0.83 you mean, and a for the firmware with audio support? Or is there an update to 0.83 called 0.83a? I can't find that one.

trixster 27 August 2019 12:53

0.84 here :)

spudje 28 August 2019 09:00

Beta still, correct? Is there a provisional changelog?

Jope 28 August 2019 09:24

I don't believe this is beta, it's release 0.84. In open source projects, 1.00 is usually reserved for "feature completeness", but releases generally should have all the implemented features working.

For a log, see the repo: https://github.com/marqs85/ossc/commits/release

spudje 28 August 2019 13:06

Officially it's still 0.83 according to the wiki and the file server https://www.niksula.hut.fi/~mhiienka/ossc/fw/

Jope 28 August 2019 13:40

Ok, then it is not a proper release, just checked the tags and only 0.83 is tagged in the release branch as well. :-)

Jope 03 September 2019 10:47

https://www.niksula.hut.fi/~mhiienka/ossc/fw/ 0.84 out

Firmware 0.84 released:

* Added 384x240 optimized mode
* Fixed audio infoframe content to comply with HDMI spec
* Improved 400p support
* Added default HDMI VIC compatibility option
* Remote hotkey and display improvements
Enabled quick loading of profiles 10+
Print profile quickload status
** Enabled sampling phase adjustment while in menus
* Added "Panasonic hack" for improving line count tolerance with line2x (certain Panasonic TVs only)
* HDMI AVI Infoframe VIC assigned for passthru modes (improved compatibility with Denon AVRs etc.)
* Added compatibility option for AV3 to use AV1 RGB and audio (enables Taito F3 AV1 connection with a small HW mod)
* Initconfig and profile versions made independent of fw version
* H. samplerate fine-tuning made more intuitive


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