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turrican3 14 May 2014 05:33

amiga games and stereoscopic display
 
Hi guys,
is there a good way to play amiga games with 3d glasses ?
Which monitor do i need ??? Or which graphical card ???
Please give me advice... And if someone tried already give me your feeling please. :great

mc6809e 14 May 2014 07:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3 (Post 954463)
Hi guys,
is there a good way to play amiga games with 3d glasses ?
Which monitor do i need ??? Or which graphical card ???
Please give me advice... And if someone tried already give me your feeling please. :great

There were 3d glasses for the Amiga back in the 80's.

They were simple LCD shutter type glasses called "X-specs".

Worked with a regular CRT or TV.

Toni Wilen 14 May 2014 08:45

Red/green 3d does not need any extra hardware :)

s2325 14 May 2014 09:57

Amiga have few games and demos for red/green glasses.

Supamax 15 May 2014 00:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by mc6809e (Post 954465)
There were 3d glasses for the Amiga back in the 80's.

They were simple LCD shutter type glasses called "X-specs".

Worked with a regular CRT or TV.

REALLY?
LCD shutter type glasses on Amiga? :shocked

Not simple RED/CYAN etc. glasses?

Vot 15 May 2014 01:01

Air support i think it is uses the 3d glasses

Michael Sykes 15 May 2014 12:31

The only thing I remember are these:amigahistory->virtualio
http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/iglasses.jpg
Only Gloom Deluxe and the Nemac IV Director's Cut CD support it.

The only game that I could find, that used anaglyph glasses, was "Wanderer 3D".

I used a pair of borrowed shutterglasses back in the late 90s with a 60Hz monitor on a PC.
I can tell you from that "experience" that it was no fun to watch a lowres picture flicker like hell at 30FPS!!!
Don't expect to much from the Amigas PAL/NTSC output.Maybe a gfx-card at 100Hz could change that but than you need a 3D chip onboard and a really fast CPU to get steady 100FPS,too.

jimbob 15 May 2014 13:25

I found a set of red/blue 3D specs the other day in a big book about Mars. Is there a list of games/demos that use this type of 3D effect. I've seen a couple of demos that look like they did but I can't remember which ones.

robinsonb5 15 May 2014 14:07

Spaceballs State of the Art has a brief section for 3D glasses - flips between red/green and red/blue if memory serves.

Michael Sykes 15 May 2014 23:06

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Originally Posted by jimbob (Post 954730)
... Is there a list of games/demos that use this type of 3D effect...

Just ask goole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ic_video_games

Not so many Amiga games in that list...

s2325 15 May 2014 23:17

Missing are KIN http://hol.abime.net/4514 SpaceSpuds http://hol.abime.net/4565 3D-Motorrad http://hol.abime.net/5175

turrican3 16 May 2014 09:59

i just thought about this http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...=nvidia+winuae
is there any way to make 3d vision works with winuae ??
Is there somebody who succeed ?

Michael Sykes 16 May 2014 11:47

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Originally Posted by s2325 (Post 954807)

You know that anyone can edit Wikipedea.
No need to register....:agree

s2325 16 May 2014 11:48

English is not my native language.

Michael Sykes 16 May 2014 12:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3 (Post 954852)
i just thought about this http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...=nvidia+winuae
is there any way to make 3d vision works with winuae ??
Is there somebody who succeed ?

As cool as 3D support in WinUAE would be,I don't think Toni will get his hands dirty for only a few games.
But who knows...
I would like to play NEMAC IV in 3D.

If I had to chose between 3D and other features I would vote for stuff like better tablet support for example.

Michael Sykes 16 May 2014 12:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325 (Post 954866)
English is not my native language.

Is that really a problem.I use to speak german most of the time....

But I might give it a try anyway.Maybe this weekend.
I mean it is just editing a simple chart.

EDIT: SpaceSpuds is in the Article now.... ^^

s2325 16 May 2014 12:10

There was screenshot from Lionheart modified for red-green glasses http://www.deviantart.com/art/Lionhe...H-3D-167661112

Toni Wilen 16 May 2014 12:40

Not worth the trouble. "Real" 3D output would require:

D3D 11 support, previous versions didn't have stereoscopic 3D support. 3rd party programs that create 3D output from older D3D (or OpenGL) won't work because emulator output is in 2D, there is no actual 3d objects that can be "easily" converted to stereoscopic 3D.

It would also practically require extra vsync mode to sync emulator output to correct display output channel.

jimbob 16 May 2014 20:11

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Originally Posted by s2325 (Post 954872)
There was screenshot from Lionheart modified for red-green glasses http://www.deviantart.com/art/Lionhe...H-3D-167661112

:great That actually looks great with the glasses, would be cool to see it all in motion. If that was done photoshopomatically I guess you could process all the frames of an emulator output capture to see it.

Spaceballs cube didn't seem very effective to me, will have a look at those other games, but my glasses don't have legs. :sad

Supamax 17 May 2014 02:43

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Originally Posted by Michael Sykes (Post 954806)
Just ask goole: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ic_video_games

Not so many Amiga games in that list...

That list is incomplete: I see that Wanderer 3D is for "Amiga, Atari ST".
They forgot to add "Sinclair QL": it also had Wanderer 3D.
Someone should correct that... (I don't know how to do it :()

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325 (Post 954872)
There was screenshot from Lionheart modified for red-green glasses http://www.deviantart.com/art/Lionhe...H-3D-167661112

WOW!
Is that a single edited screenshot, or does exist a custom anaglyph version of Lionheart?


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