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honx 12 February 2017 15:30

makecd - audio cd out of mp3?
 
is it possible to burn audio cd using mp3 as source?
or do mp3s have to be converted to some other format?

is it possible ripping audio cd making mp3 in amigaos?

//edit: oops, wrong forum! :D can someone fix thix, please?

Mad-Matt 12 February 2017 15:42

MakeCD can support MP3 through mpega.library. I've used SecondSpin in the past for cd to mp3 encoding.

DamienD 12 February 2017 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by honx (Post 1140382)
//edit: oops, wrong forum! :D can someone fix thix, please?

Moved accordingly ;)

honx 12 February 2017 19:10

thx, have mpega.library installed. is there any tutorial about how i can make audiocd from mp3?
and a tutorial for installation of secondspin and lame as well? seems to be complicated, i read.

Matt_H 12 February 2017 22:24

Been quite a while since I did this, but I think you just add the MP3 files as audio tracks. As I recall, I could only get this to work with the older mpega.library. The newer libmad-based mpega.library didn't work for me.

honx 12 February 2017 22:28

can i put this older version into makecd folder so it uses that one instead of the one installed in libs:?

//edit: if i enter a mp3 file as a new audio track and want to write the track, it says something like:
"ISO-Image ... CD-R-Track ... Blocksize 2048 Bytes". in german, so i tried translating important bits.
how can i change this blocksize to 2048 bytes?

Matt_H 12 February 2017 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by honx (Post 1140434)
can i put this older version into makecd folder so it uses that one instead of the one installed in libs:?

Not sure. Give it a try! Use SnoopDos to see which one MakeCD is opening.

Quote:

//edit: if i enter a mp3 file as a new audio track and want to write the track, it says something like:
"ISO-Image ... CD-R-Track ... Blocksize 2048 Bytes". in german, so i tried translating important bits.
how can i change this blocksize to 2048 bytes?
Not sure about this. Are you sure the track type settings are correct (i.e., it's set as an audio track)? I don't think there should be anything relating to an ISO image for an audio CD.

honx 12 February 2017 23:13

that's why i'm looking for a step by step tutorial, preferred with screenshots.
because i'm not sure at all, i'm totally new and noob regarding makecd burning.

idrougge 13 February 2017 00:47

http://aminet.net/package/mus/misc/secondspin_218

ancalimon 13 February 2017 02:03

Using the warpup version of mpega.library, I could burn mp3's as audio cds on the fly using MakeCD. I think I used to burn at 6x on my 8x scsi device connected to A4000T's scsi port. Don't remember if it was the scsi bus limiting the speed or cpu not being fast enough to convert mp3 to cd audio.

Using the 68k version of mpega.library (or was it lame?) will probably require you to convert mp3s to aiff or wav before the burning process starts.

jPV 13 February 2017 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by honx (Post 1140382)
is it possible to burn audio cd using mp3 as source?
or do mp3s have to be converted to some other format?

If you have mpega.library installed and working, you just can drag&drop mp3 files from Workbench (or DOopus etc) to the tracks list in the main window of MakeCD.

The Play button can be used if you want to make sure mp3 is decoded correctly.

Basically you just could hit the "Write tracks" button then, but if you want to burn with DAO instead of TAO, you could check Advanced Options.

I don't think there was much more to do... used to burn several audio cd:s on my 060 Amiga back then. Or if your machine isn't beefy enough for on the fly decoding, you could try to use image files in Track Options -> Target... maybe it would decode mp3 to some raw audio data first? Can't remember for sure.

honx 13 February 2017 14:12

thx, this drag and drop worked. the other solution (track options - target) i tried yesterday, didn't work.
i just burnt my first cd using mp3 as source. but there seems to be more tweaking to be done i assume.
tracks are playing, but there are ugly and LOUD audio glitches and missing seconds in music playback.
drive/makecd can't be the problem, i assume. because i copied >50 audio cds last week without problem.
they all work without any glitches or missing seconds. so probably the problem located at mp3 transfer.

Daedalus 13 February 2017 17:06

Are you sure your CD burner supports BURN-Proof operation? It sounds like the writing is corrupted, possibly because it can't write and decode in real-time quickly enough. Decoding MP3s is far more processor-orientated than copying raw data, and it's likely you can't go any more than 1x write speed if you're doing it on the fly - and that's with an 060.

supaduper 13 February 2017 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daedalus (Post 1140590)
Are you sure your CD burner supports BURN-Proof operation? It sounds like the writing is corrupted, possibly because it can't write and decode in real-time quickly enough. Decoding MP3s is far more processor-orientated than copying raw data, and it's likely you can't go any more than 1x write speed if you're doing it on the fly - and that's with an 060.

Yes I agree I managed burning CDs with a Blizzard 030 on my A1200 and had to muck around with the buffer settings as I recall to get consistent burns and the were good if I say it my self in the late 90s. MakeCD is a nice amiga app

honx 13 February 2017 17:59

are you able to recall the settings you have made?
so that i would be able to copy them?

supaduper 13 February 2017 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by honx (Post 1140609)
are you able to recall the settings you have made?
so that i would be able to copy them?

It was on on an old setup many years ago, but I have images of all my systems I will try and dig out and see if I can find the settings

jPV 13 February 2017 18:16

And are you using IDE or SCSI? SCSI makes things wayyyy more smooth when talking about burning :)

supaduper 13 February 2017 18:48

1 Attachment(s)
Found a image with it on, I screen grabbed the Settings page of my MakeCD settings.

Attachment 52031

honx 13 February 2017 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by jPV (Post 1140617)
And are you using IDE or SCSI? SCSI makes things wayyyy more smooth when talking about burning :)

is scsi. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by supaduper (Post 1140623)
Found a image with it on, I screen grabbed the Settings page of my MakeCD settings.

Attachment 52031

thx, i'll try burning again with these settings tomorrow.
in addition i'll reduce write speed to 1x. just in case.

jPV 14 February 2017 08:50

In old times audio cd:s were recommended to be burned in 1x in any case for the best results...

Also if you want the best possible quality, you could use FPU version of the mpega.library (if you have FPU in your machine). It's slightly slower than the standard integer version, but provides more accurate decoding which might be wanted for this kind of stuff.


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