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Doobrey 21 February 2010 04:32
Quote:
Originally Posted by NubeCheCorre (Post 644310)

Code:
SYS:C/SetPatch SKIPROMSMODULES fs QUIET
SYS:C/SetPatch SKIPROMSMODULES icon QUIET
SYS:C/SetPatch SKIPROMSMODULES ram QUIET
SYS:C/SetPatch SKIPROMSMODULES scsi.device QUIET
SYS:C/SetPatch SKIPROMSMODULES shell QUIET
SYS:C/SetPatch SKIPROMSMODULES workbench QUIET

It's SKIPROMMODULES, no 'S' in the middle (or SKIPROMUPDATES, same effect)

As Peter pointed out, that won't work.
The first line tells setpatch to load ALL modules EXCEPT fs.
The second will load all except icon, so fs gets loaded here anyway (and icon was already loaded by the first line!)
The rest has no effect.

Also, trying to 'skip' icon and workbench is pointless. They're not in the ROMUpdate file.

NubeCheCorre 21 February 2010 12:00
Quote:
No, you didn't.
Excuse me for the f* docs, nobody likes to read the docs. That's why everybody calls them f* docs. I also didn't want to offend you!
;) :)

Quote:
On the other hand, when I see your 6 lines with SetPatch now, I'm not really sure that you know what you are doing there?

There is no error in LoadModule v40.11 or v40.12. It works!
I tried with LoadModule v. 40.12, i'll try with version 40.11 to see if it do the difference.. for my SetPatch line, i use the one included in the BB3, i didn't create the setpatch line or the LoadModule line. I simply divided them into multiples lines to read them better.. :-)

NubeCheCorre 21 February 2010 12:04
Quote:
It's SKIPROMMODULES, no 'S' in the middle (or SKIPROMUPDATES, same effect)
That's right in my s-s, i did a mistake when copying the s-s, i was watching the output on my PAL TV and typing it on my PC Keyboard

Quote:
As Peter pointed out, that won't work.
The first line tells setpatch to load ALL modules EXCEPT fs.
The second will load all except icon, so fs gets loaded here anyway (and icon was already loaded by the first line!)
The rest has no effect.

Also, trying to 'skip' icon and workbench is pointless. They're not in the ROMUpdate file.
Excuse me but at this point, i am little bit confused.. the setpatch line and the LoadModules line are not mine.. that lines were put into the s-s by the BB3..
What should i put in my s-s?? :)

NubeCheCorre 21 February 2010 12:38
I tried also the LoadModule v. 40.11, same problem.. it always tell me that fs il already resident..

Doobrey 21 February 2010 14:37
Quote:
Originally Posted by NubeCheCorre (Post 644553)
i didn't create the setpatch line or the LoadModule line. I simply divided them into multiples lines to read them better.. :-)
Or to put it another way, you did create them.;)

Anyway, enough of the pendantics over who fucked it up, what you're doing with those multiple setpatch lines is NOT the same as the 'single line' setpatch command in the BB3 startup-sequence.

Only use Setpatch once in the s-s, and the SKIPROMMODULES should be a comma separated list of modules to skip.

As for LoadModule failing to load FFS, what version have you installed with HDToolBox on your HD ?
LoadModule won't work if the same version or newer is already loaded.

Just change
LoadModule L:FastFileSystem NOREBOOT
to
LoadModule L:FastFileSystem NOREBOOT >NIL:
to hide the error, or just comment the line out.

NubeCheCorre 21 February 2010 15:03
ok, i'll re-use the original setpatch line and LoadModule line, about the ffs, i use the one included into amiga os 4.0..

gulliver 21 February 2010 19:31
Be carefull about using the FFS included in OS4:
-It has some incompatibilities
-It is slower than the 45.xx

Read the documentation included in the OS4 cd, which has plenty of detail about the behaviour and feature set of that FFS.

PeterK 22 February 2010 14:58
Stupid question:

Why does anybody want to load the FastFileSystem with LoadModule?

Ok, I don't have a real Amiga with a real Harddisk anymore, but usually the FastFileSystem is stored on the Harddisk and is linked to the RDB there. So it's already loaded by the AutoBoot routine and thus cannot be replaced later.

Please correct me if I'm wrong and explain me how the FastFileSystem can be replaced after it has been loaded by AutoBoot?

Instead of using LoadModule, I would install the latest FastFileSystem with the HDToolbox.

Sorry, I've overlooked this comment:
Quote:
Doobrey said:
As for LoadModule failing to load FFS, what version have you installed with HDToolBox on your HD ?
LoadModule won't work if the same version or newer is already loaded.
So, would AutoBoot accept updated resident modules for the FFS? Unfortunately, I can't check that out.

kolla 22 February 2010 17:41
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterK (Post 644900)
Stupid question:

Why does anybody want to load the FastFileSystem with LoadModule?
In case they want to boot from floppy or RAD later on.

PeterK 22 February 2010 18:31
Quote:
Originally Posted by kolla (Post 644939)
In case they want to boot from floppy or RAD later on.
Good idea kolla ! :great

I've just found this in the readme of FFS4514p.lha from Etienne Vogt:
Quote:
Finally, use your favourite harddisk installation tool (HDToolBox from OS3.9
for example) to install the new FastFileSystem into your harddisk's rdb area.

If you want this patched FFS to be also used for floppy drives, you need to
make it resident using Thomas Richter's LoadModule command, available on
Aminet as util/boot/LoadModule.lha. You also need to modify the SetPatch
command in your Startup-Sequence to skip loading the 45.13 FFS from the ROM
Update file by adding SKIPROMMODULES "filesystem" to the SetPatch command.

kolla 22 February 2010 18:35
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterK (Post 643280)
Icon.library 46.4.147 with some fixes, some tweaks and some new bugs ;)
(Bernd Roesch's Icon_Lib.exe for AfA_OS is the same version as before)
12 Ram Disk:> version full file icon_lib.exe
version 4.1 Jan 23 2010
12 Ram Disk:> version full file sys:afa_os_libs/icon_lib.exe
version 4.5 (19.Sep.2009)

Bogus version strings aside, this is confusing :)

gulliver 17 April 2010 11:03
Thank you again! :)

PeterK 23 April 2010 16:48
The icon.library 46.4 is available on Aminet now. Many thanks to everybody here at EAB for testing the previous versions and for the feedback. Please, don't hesitate to send any bugreports and your comments concerning the current Aminet release, too. :)

The readme: http://aminet.net/util/libs/IconLib_46.4.readme

The download: http://aminet.net/util/libs/IconLib_46.4.lha

gulliver 23 April 2010 18:27
:bowdown:great

mfletcher 12 May 2010 21:45
Hey guys I tried downloading BB3 last night but I get errors when extracting the .lha. Anyone else having this issue?

hit 12 May 2010 22:32
Quote:
Originally Posted by mfletcher (Post 668504)
Hey guys I tried downloading BB3 last night but I get errors when extracting the .lha. Anyone else having this issue?
same here, i get one error when extracting on a linux box:
Quote:
LHa: Error: CRC error BoingBag3.9-3/Files2/Fonts/courier/24

prowler 12 May 2010 22:55
Quote:
Originally Posted by mfletcher (Post 668504)
Hey guys I tried downloading BB3 last night but I get errors when extracting the .lha. Anyone else having this issue?
Quote:
Originally Posted by hit (Post 668512)
same here, i get one error when extracting on a linux box:
Hi,

I have uploaded a replacement Courier 24 Font file to the Zone for you, extracted from the 1.0c version of the BoingBag3 archive. :)

Just overwrite the existing copy of the file in the archive to repair it.

Or, if you prefer, I can upload the entire 1.0c version of the archive.

hit 12 May 2010 23:03
thnx prowler :)
maybe gulliver will create a valid archive on the project page too *hint* ;)

gulliver 13 May 2010 00:04
I am sorry, the problem was that I archived the file with an old broken lha version. I have already fixed the archive, just download it from http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/bbag3isdone.htm

BTW, thank you for reporting the issue!

prowler 13 May 2010 00:07
Thanks, Gulliver! :great


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