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Si-Pie 03 December 2008 02:34

Amiga Vs ST
 
Anyone got a list of games that show off the power of the Amiga compared to the ST? I already know of Shadow Of the Beast. Any suggestions?

DamienD 03 December 2008 02:38

I guess you could browse through HOL for games that have an Atari ST/E conversion and then pick your favourites to compare with (as there are loads) ;)

... Conversion hardware is : Atari ST/E

Si-Pie 03 December 2008 02:47

ok thanks I will take a look at that.

mihcael 03 December 2008 03:11

search youtube for amiga vs atari, there is a video showing comaprisons on there somewhere

TCD 03 December 2008 07:54

This one for example : http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XASnGpemk_M
or this one : http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ic3Fy-tVY ;)

john4p 03 December 2008 10:31

Turrican II for graphics and almost every game for sound.

TCD 03 December 2008 10:43

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Originally Posted by john4p (Post 483263)
Turrican II for graphics...

Only Turrican II? ;)

john4p 03 December 2008 10:52

Of course not - but it's an extreme example (besides Beast) of how crappy the Atari ST-versions are.

Paul_s 03 December 2008 11:03

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Originally Posted by Si-Pie (Post 483209)
Anyone got a list of games that show off the power of the Amiga compared to the ST? I already know of Shadow Of the Beast. Any suggestions?

just the Amiga name alone destroys the ST! Down with Atari!!! suxor

coze 03 December 2008 11:09

it's kind of funny to read the comments and see the clowns still insisting amiga did not have technical superiority just because it had a lower clocked CPU. :)

TCD 03 December 2008 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul_s (Post 483268)
just the Amiga name alone destroys the ST! Down with Atari!!! suxor

:great :D That's the spirit Paul ;) *cough* I mean *cough* you got a point there :)

Si-Pie 03 December 2008 14:10

Thanks guys. It was actually for http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XASnGpemk_M that cyberdruid point out. This guy on there called r8qt7 has been insisting that the ST is better etc and that no games look better on the Amiga. I mentioned Shadow of the beast and he blames the programmers haha. Kinda given up with him now haha. Thanx anyway guys.

Retro-Nerd 03 December 2008 14:31

Show him Unreal ST. :D

john4p 03 December 2008 15:00

Quote:

This guy on there called r8qt7 has been insisting that the ST is better etc
This holds true for very few games, e.g.: Stunt Car Racer's framerate is faster on the ST (but its sound is abysmal).

Si-Pie 03 December 2008 15:03

Yeh John that and I think Falcon run slightly faster on the ST. I pointed him to the wikipedia artcle on Amiga Games but he seemed to be avoiding reading it. It explains why some early games were actually faster on the ST.

viddi 03 December 2008 15:14

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Originally Posted by john4p (Post 483330)
This holds true for very few games, e.g.: Stunt Car Racer's framerate is faster on the ST (but its sound is abysmal).

But you can use the turbo option on the Amiga (WHDload version) ;)

Charlie 03 December 2008 15:22

No doubt there are many reasonable reasons why the ST versions of games very often suffer in comparison with the Amiga...
...I've never been convinced that hardware is top of the list. :shocked..?

Obviously the A500 was a MUCH better computer but I'd say it was well within the ST's capabilities to support 'equally good' versions of most (not all) of these games.

TCD 03 December 2008 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by viddi (Post 483336)
But you can use the turbo option on the Amiga (WHDload version) ;)

Which makes the game nearly unplayable ;) But yeah, it's faster than the ST version :D

@Charlie
Well the Copper and Blitter were the reason why games were 'better' on the Amiga (along with the increased number of colours). Guess there are some Chess games that benefit from the faster CPU on the ST... :cheese

Retro-Nerd 03 December 2008 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid (Post 483340)
Which makes the game nearly unplayable ;) But yeah, it's faster than the ST version :D

Not on real hardware. :)

Quote:

Obviously the A500 was a MUCH better computer but I'd say it was well within the ST's capabilities to support 'equally good' versions of most (not all) of these games.
Hardly surpring, most of them were direct ST to Amiga conversions. But check some Amiga to ST ports, mostly horrible stuff. ;)

TCD 03 December 2008 15:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd (Post 483344)
Not on real hardware. :)

So there is a reason why john4p should buy a real machine then ;)


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