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Retrofan 12 February 2011 21:56

Best Video Player... and what format for videos?
 
Hi:
I just want to play some video clips in my Amiga. I've tried to use one that I've taked from Youtube, and that I've got in Mp4 or AVI. I've tried to play them and ACTION doesn't read it's format. I've downloaded a program for the PC, Oxelon Media Converter, and I can convert all the settings, but still I coudn't play it in the Amiga.
With Oxelon I can choose:
Media Format: A lot of them, including AVI of course.
Video Codec: Another lot, but I don't know which to select. I've got Mpeg1, Mpeg2... an a lot more.
And later I've got to select for video: Widht x Height, Frames/Second, Bitrate (kbits/sec), and in Audio: Stereo or mono or Surround, Sampling rate (it's at 44100), and Bitrate (kbits/sec).

Any suggestion about the format or about what Video player to use?
Thanks.

EDIT: I've been reading the ACTION instructions:
About the supported codecs:
---------------------------

Video for Windows (.avi)

Supported video codecs:

AccuPak (PalomAVI) (CLJR) 24 bit
Microsoft RGB (RGB) 8 bit
Microsoft RGB (RGB) 16 bit
Microsoft RGB (RGB) 24 bit
Microsoft Video 1 (CRAM/MSVC) 8 bit
Microsoft Video 1 (CRAM/MSVC) 16 bit
Radius Cinepak (CVID) 16 bit (+)
Radius Cinepak (CVID) 24 bit (+)
Radius Cinepak (CVID) 32 bit (+)
Run Length Encoded (RLE) 8 bit

Supported audio codecs:

PCM MONO/STEREO 8/16 bit
MS-ADPCM MONO/STEREO 4 bit (16 bit)
DVI-ADPCM MONO/STEREO 4 bit (16 bit)

QuickTime (.mov, .qt)

Supported video codecs:

Apple Animation (RLE) 8 bit (color/gray) (+)
Apple Graphics (SMC) 8 bit (color/gray) (+)
Apple Video (RPZA) 16 bit
Radius Cinepak (CVID) 16 bit (+)
Radius Cinepak (CVID) 24 bit (+)
Radius Cinepak (CVID) 32 bit (+)

(+) = PPC Accelerated

Supported audio codecs:

RAW MONO/STEREO 8/16 bit
TWOS MONO/STEREO 8/16 bit
IMA-ADPCM MONO/STEREO 4 bit (16) bit
MACE 6:1 MONO/STEREO 8 bit
MACE 3:1 MONO/STEREO 8 bit




It seems I will need another video converter to have any of that video codecs.... Which? Perhaps DrDvix for XP?

Retrofan 14 February 2011 02:14

Well, thank you very much for your help in this thread...:D I'm joking.
It's been very very easy to make a video for the Amiga. I've only had to use 5 different programs and to learn some coding in Basic...jeje

Well, it's true I've used 5 programs (but I hadn't to learn Basic):
1-DVDVideoSoft conversor to use a video from Youtube (as Mpg)
2-Oxelon Media Converter to change that Mpg to a Mpg1
3-VirtualDub to change it's frames, size, sound....
4-AVI4HV to modify it more in C for HAM in my Laptop with Vista.
5-Finally in the Amiga, Hamp.run

Well, here I have to beg you pardon because my TV is very very old. I'm waiting my birthday to change it...;) and it's too dark. It has the contrast and light at max... and my camera is another shit.... (sig)

Well, anyway I recommend you to see this video I've done of my Amiga playing a very nice spot while booting, made in HAM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bReHpamElzA

Ah. I've taked off for some days my internal Cd, so I have to click in the window that opens, and it takes a little more to start, but's not a problem.

EDIT: Come on !... Do you have seen a video while booting? Say something.... (different that "mine boots faster")

kriz 14 February 2011 04:03

Thats cool ! ;) Plays smooth and fast!

Retro1234 14 February 2011 04:05

Mine boots faster :p
Whats Basic coding did you need?

I would think maybe your setup could play .AVI but I like the AVI4HV

Hers a few links some other videos done with AVI4HV http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=711069&postcount=11
shame theres no controlls like Stop,Pause........ Also the file sizes are huge no compression so a black borders seems a waste.

Theres also CDXL which maybe better I must admit never tried it because of the ease of convertion with AVI4HV.

mfilos 14 February 2011 08:24

Nice Retrofan.
A guide would be great at some point for others to experiment :)

Retro1234 14 February 2011 09:09

Theres a link to converting MPEG to HV in the link above :)

mfilos 14 February 2011 10:35

Thanks man! I really appreciate it (need to search better next time /hide)

Retrofan 14 February 2011 12:16

Thanks Kriz & Mfilos. Thanks Boo Boo. Really who helped me without knowing was Boo Boo (didn't you want a guide, Mfilos?):
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=110

And see the entire thread. EDIT: Ah, ok, Boo Boo gave it all...

I have to try that other too. I was trying Frogger at Aminet for Mpeg, but I coudn't make it run.

StrategyGamer 14 February 2011 21:01

What is "HV"?

NovaCoder 15 February 2011 03:15

I think using Action with the 'StormDither' will give better results on a fast (060) system because it uses HAM8 and not HAM6 like AVI4HV.

AmigaFriend 15 February 2011 03:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan (Post 736496)
EDIT: Come on !... Do you have seen a video while booting? Say something.... (different that "mine boots faster")

Do you mean the Amiga 1200 that scrolls vertically down on the black spots of the image? :D

Retro1234 15 February 2011 12:24

Maybe stands for HAM Video - Similar to ANIM just a sequence of HAM6 stills with Audio probably 8bit 8SVX/IFF -use Hamp.run to play it back.
The software is by Damage_X - DDNI got in contact with him and he agred to release the software.


I see this video of yours NovaCoder using Action - Could you give any more info FPS, AVI file size?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VETGf...eature=related
Ill have another look myself at Action and using 'StormDither' at some point.

NovaCoder 15 February 2011 13:37

Hiya,

The FPS are not 'locked' like they are with AVI4HV, the video will play up the speed that it was originally encoded to. On an 030 you're realistically limited to around 6 FPS with a 320x200 video but an 060 can go up to nearly 20 FPS apparently (which is very impressive for realtime HAM8).

Retro1234 15 February 2011 14:51

Thanks for the info ill check it out......

Retrofan 15 February 2011 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrategyGamer (Post 736672)
What is "HV"?

Surely AVI4HV stands for AVI for Ham Video

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpect (Post 736729)
Do you mean the Amiga 1200 that scrolls vertically down on the black spots of the image?

Now that you're asking, my birthday is in march, the 2nd...:D Send me a PM to give you my address for the presents!. If you do, I can convince the Moderators to get you registered...

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaCoder (Post 736725)
I think using Action with the 'StormDither' will give better results on a fast (060) system because it uses HAM8 and not HAM6 like AVI4HV.

Very well :D, but... what's stormDither?

BTW: My video runs at 25fps

EDIT: I've been trying to adapt videos to use with ACTION and Frogger, and I coudn't. I believe AVI4HV is the best I can try. I would like to use Frogger as the Mpeg videos are smaller and they look better (but perhaps I can't make them run as they are "better").


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