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CodyJarrett 29 June 2002 10:58

Database Of Unreleased Amiga Games
 
Here's the beginning of a database of games which weren't released on the Amiga e.g. non-existent ones, falsely advertised ones, existing but unreleased, later released under another name. Additions and corrections welcome!

Name Developer Publisher Genre Sightings Notes
3D Snooker [Jimmy White's Whirlwind Snooker] (Archer Maclean-Virgin=Sport) AP1, P12 / Released as Jimmy White's Whirlwind Snooker
3D Speedball-type game (Steven Norcott-Core=?) AP1, P16 / From author of Driller and Darkside on the Amiga
Adidas Championship Football (?-?=?) Issue 9 or 10 of Amiga Joker
Aggression AGA (Bloodhouse-?=Horizontal shoot-'em-up) CU Amiga Apr-94, P42
Agression CD32 (Bloodhouse-?=Horizontal shoot-'em-up) CU Amiga Apr-94, P42
Air Duel (Glyn Williams-MicroProse=3D shoot-'em-up) AP1, P16 / From author of Warhead
Ambermoon (English) (?-Thalion=RPG) / Only released in Germany at the time
Apidya 2 (Kaiko-?=?) Apidya titlescreen - there is a '2' in the title / This is a joke by Kaiko
Arcade Sports [Kingpin] (?-Team 17=Sport) Team 17 catalogue in Alien Breed 3D 2 / Released as Kingpin
Arcade Sports CD32 [Kingpin] (?-Team 17=Sport) Team 17 catalogue in Alien Breed 3D 2 / Released as Kingpin
Battletech 2: Crescent Hawk's Revenge (?-Activision=?)
Benjamin And The Alien Incident (Bloodhouse-?=Point-and-click adventure) CU Amiga Apr-94, P42
Bob (Electronic Arts-Bullfrog=Action strategy) AP2, P69 / Bullfrog working title (easy to type on a keyboard). Used as name for Syndicate. Also see Higher Functions.
Buck Rogers: Matrix Cubed (?-SSI=?)
Captive Missions Disk (Tony Crowther-?=?) AP0, P29
Carrier Strike: South Pacific 1942-1944 (SSI-U.S. Gold=?)
Chuck Yeager's Air Combat (?-Electronic Arts=Simulation)
Creation (Bullfrog=Simulation) AP2, P70
Creepers (?-Psygnosis=?) Advertised AP23, P99
Crusaders Of The Dark Savant (?-U.S. Gold=RPG) U.S. Gold catalogue in Raving Mad Compilation
CyberFight (Michael Powell-?=Beat-'em-up) AP1, P12 / From author of Powerdrome. Written for PC first - possibly available on it
Cyberspace (?-Oxford Digital-Empire=?) AP23, P21
Damocles 2: Double Trouble (?-Novagen=?) AP1, P12 / Mercenary 3? Had a bad guy called K.C. Kim - Mercenary 3's bad guy was P.C. Bil
Dracula CD32 (Psygnosis=?)
Drop Soldier (Ross Goodley-Image Works=?) AP0, P29
Exterminator 2 (?-Audiogenic=Shoot-'em-up) AP1, P12
Extractors CD32 (?-Millennium=Puzzle)
Extractors CD32 (Beta) (?-?=?)
F.A. Premier League Football, The (?-Ocean=Sport) Sleepwalker AGA - advert in box
F-15 Strike Eagle (?-Microprose=?)
Fatal Strokes: The Art Of Adventure (?-ICE=?) AP19, P92
Free D.C.! (?-U.S. Gold=Adventure) U.S. Gold catalogue in Raving Mad Compilation
G2 (?-Psygnosis=?)
Higher Functions (Electronic Arts-Bullfrog=Action strategy) AP2, P69 / Working title for Syndicate. Also see Bob
Inferno CD32 (Ocean-Digital Image Design=3D shoot-'em-up) AF Annual 94, P56) / Follow-up to Epic
Jones In The Fast Lane (?-Sierra=?)
King Of Thieves AGA (?-Team 17=Action strategy) Team 17 catalogue in Alien Breed 3D 2
King Of Thieves CD32 (?-Team 17=Action strategy) Team 17 catalogue in Alien Breed 3D 2
Land Of Legends (?-Micro Illusions / Parsec Soft Systems=?)
Links Course: Barton Creek (?-U.S. Gold=Data disk) / Probably unreleased because first course disk, Firestone, wasn't successful
Links Course: Troon North (?-U.S. Gold=Data disk) / Probably unreleased because first course disk, Firestone, wasn't successful
Links Course: Bay Hill Club (?-U.S. Gold=Data disk) / Probably unreleased because first course disk, Firestone, wasn't successful
Links Course: Bountiful Municipal (?-U.S. Gold=Data disk) / Probably unreleased because first course disk, Firestone, wasn't successful
Links Course: Hyatt Dorado (?-U.S. Gold=Data disk) / Probably unreleased because first course disk, Firestone, wasn't successful
Links Course: Pinehurst (?-U.S. Gold=Data disk) / Probably unreleased because first course disk, Firestone, wasn't successful
Magic Candle 1 (?-Mindcraft=?)
Magic Candle 2 (?-Mindcraft=?)
Magic Carpet (Bullfrog)
Martian Memorandum: Tex Murphy 2 (?-US Gold=?)
Powerslide (reLINE-?=Racing shoot-'em-up) Legend Of Faerghail manual - "Coming soon from reLINE"
Prophecy Of The Shadow (?-U.S. Gold=?) U.S. Gold catalogue in Raving Mad Compilation
Pussies Galore (?-Team 17=Platform) ATR manual - advert
Putty Squad (?-?=?)
Quarterstaff (?-Infocom=?)
Rotator (reLINE-?=Shoot-'em-up) Legend Of Faerghail manual - "Coming soon from reLINE"
Scavenger (John Phillips-Hewson=?) AP1, P10 / Featured realistic shadows
Sibwing [Guardian] (Acid-?=3D shoot-'em-up) CU Amiga Apr-94, P35 / Original Guardian name (Mark Sibly+SNES Starwing=Sibwing)
Skeltor (?-Novagen=Shoot-'em-up) AP1, P11
Son Of Zeus - Amiga Action - disk 28 (?-Aeon Design-Electronic Zoo=?)
Sorcerian (?-Sierra=?)
Spodland (The Hidden-?=?)
Starship Troopers-style game (Ross Goodley-?=Action strategy) AP issue 0, page 29
Strike Command (?-Millennium=?) Moonshine Racers manual - coming soon
Superhero (?-Psygnosis=?) Advertised AP23, P15
Tentacle (?-Millennium=?) Moonshine Racers manual - coming soon
TFX AGA (?-Ocean=Simulation) Not released at time. Later released on CU Amiga
Untitled Team 17 Game 1 (?-Team 17=3D Strategy) Team 17 catalogue in Alien Breed 3D 2
Untitled Team 17 Game 1 CD32 (?-Team 17=3D Strategy) Team 17 catalogue in Alien Breed 3D 2
Utopos (Bloodhouse-?=Strategy / arcade) CU Amiga Apr-94, P42
Western Front: The Liberation Of Europe 1944-45 (SSI-U.S. Gold=?)
X-Fighter CD32 (?-Thalion=Beat-'em-up)

Twistin'Ghost 29 June 2002 12:08

Re: Database Of Unreleased Amiga Games
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CodyJarrett
Quarterstaff (?-Infocom=?)
Sorcerian (?-Infocom=?)
I have the Mac version of "Quarterstaff" (the only platform it was published on, I think). I wonder if it's possible to do the "Border Zone" treatment on it so that we can have an Amiga version of it, as well. Maybe find a 16-bit version of "Sorcerian", as well?

BTW, nice list!

Kodoichi 29 June 2002 12:40

Do hacks count as well? -> Wings Of Fury 2

Edit: Not a hack but an unfinished game: Alchemy by Psygnosis

Twistin'Ghost 29 June 2002 13:18

I don't believe he's looking for hacks. That should be a separate list. What is the source on Alchemy (magazine, etc.)

CodyJarrett 29 June 2002 13:36

TG: yes, maybe we should try to get Quarterstaff and Sorcerian working.

I wonder if we should still add games which run under interpreters to our main HOL database? We'd have to include Border Zone, Ultima 7, some Lucasarts games and a whole host of text adventures e.g. Level 9's Adrian Mole series, Emerald Isle, Eric The Viking, The Archers, because they probably run under interpreters. Maybe this list is a better place for them...

Kodoichi & TG: I think Kodoichi is right about hacks, as this is the list which should clear up confusion about games which weren't released - and hacks definitely confuse!

Uukrul 29 June 2002 15:29

The german version of Ambermoon was properly released (in fact I've seen it at Ebay.de)

CodyJarrett 29 June 2002 15:43

Thanks for the info Uukrul - I think it was the English version that wasn't released?

Chuckles 29 June 2002 18:40

@Twistin' Ghost

Like you, I also have the Mac Version of Quarterstaff, and I'm positive that you're right that it was only ever released for the Mac. I was an Infocom junkie, and though I didn't have a Mac, I bought it to play on the Amiga using the A-Max emulator, though that lacked the color graphics. Nowadays, I use the Basilisk II emulator running on the PC to run it, after finding that it was available for download from Home of the Underdogs. I think the odds of being able to get this to run on the Amiga are probably fairly slim though (except via emulation) since as I recall, this was developed outside of Infocom proper exclusively for the Mac.

By the way, out of curiousity, what was done to get Border Zone to be playable on the Amiga? The only thing I was aware of that would have been a problem was that it needed a version of the interpreter that supported timed inputs, which I believe the Amiga release of Frotz does. Other than that, I think it's just your basic z-code file.

As for Sorcerian, that's a new one on me. I've heard of Sorcerer, obviously but never this one, or at least not as an Infocom title. The name sounds vaguely familiar, but I was thinking it was something completely different.

CodyJarrett 29 June 2002 19:18

Border Zone is playable through Frotz, just the same as any other standard Infocom game.

The problem is that, because it was not released on the Amiga, and is playable through an Interpreter, ADF versions of it have circulated (consisting of an interpreter and the PC data files). This causes lots of confusion, obviously!

Another problem for us, when compiling the database, is that games such as this and running only on interpreters are not original Amiga releases, but neither are they emulated. So, to clear up confusion, we have to include them in an Amiga database, if only to say that they definitely weren't original releases and clear up the confusion! :rolleyes

Uukrul 29 June 2002 20:34

Quote:

Originally posted by CodyJarrett
Thanks for the info Uukrul - I think it was the English version that wasn't released?
Yes, English version wasn't released only the german one. Thanks to Alex Holland we now can play (and finish ;) ) the english version.

Twistin'Ghost 29 June 2002 23:55

Quote:

Originally posted by CodyJarrett
Another problem for us, when compiling the database, is that games such as this and running only on interpreters are not original Amiga releases, but neither are they emulated. So, to clear up confusion, we have to include them in an Amiga database, if only to say that they definitely weren't original releases and clear up the confusion! :rolleyes
Well, it actually serves two purposes. The one you describe for sure. But also it lets the user know that this game can indeed be played on an Amiga. This may seem unimportant in this day and age when everybody practically has PC's, but some of us (me, for example) do not...WILL not play PC games. Also, I am leaving the PC platform very soon, so it's useful to know that as an Amiga user, this game is at my disposal to play on my platform. I suppose this also applies to AGI and SCUMM games, as well.

Of course this doesn't count with emulated games (ie, running on an Amiga via Mac emulation) because it doesn't meet BOTH criteria.

@Chuckles
You are right, Sorcerian is not an Infocom game, but Sierra On-Line.

Shatterhand 30 June 2002 05:06

Hey

I remember seeing a platform game that had a kind of invisible hero, you could only see his gloves, shoes and hat. I think the name was "Magic Castle", and I never saw this one.

Also, another platform game called "Boo", where you controlled a little cute ghost.

I believe I also saw an ad for Micro Machines 2 for Amiga.

CD32 version of Syndicate is another one that cames to mind...

Did Magic Carpet ever got an ad in an amiga magazine?

CodyJarrett 30 June 2002 09:43

Shatterhand - any more info about Magic Castle and Boo?

Was Syndicate CD32 definitely not released?

I've added some new ones (Creation, Bob, Higher Functions, Magic Carpet, Inferno CD32, Dracula CD32)...

the wolf 18 March 2003 14:03

@ Cody:

Maybe someone had already asked this, but...

When do you think to open the new HOL section with the unreleased games?
And... if you need some screenshots, ask what you want, I have many of these! ;)

CodyJarrett 18 March 2003 14:18

Hey, blast from the past!

Thanks for reminding me about this thread Wolf. We now have the functionality in HOL to add these games.

Essentially, they are added as normal games, but clearly marked as Unreleased. They have no DBS screens, but we can add screenshots in the alt screen section.

Pre-release names for games released under another name can be added to the existing entries.

I will go through this list and add the information to HOL.

the wolf 18 March 2003 14:31

OK, because there are plenty of missing titles...
I have many screenshots of unreleased games (the only missing thing is the time to scan all!:) )

Can you post a "almost-definitive" list (even in The Zone) of these missing titles (no matter pre-release titles), and your "screenshot needing" for certain games, then I'll watch for other missing titles not is your list (along with the screenshot, of course!)

CodyJarrett 18 March 2003 14:34

Sounds like a plan.

I'll update the list tonight. Thanks Wolfy!

Tim Janssen 18 March 2003 14:44

A link...
 
I have posted in the Old rare games request also some pictures of never-released games. It's worth checking out.

CodyJarrett 18 March 2003 14:49

Thanks Tim - I will have a look there too.

the wolf 18 March 2003 14:50

Quote:

I'll update the list tonight. Thanks Wolfy!
Thanks to you!
It's a pleasure to help our "little" amiga community, and one of my deepest wishes is to see a "repository" of almost all that games that weren't... (see my old post!)
I have few time, but I'll do my best! I hope everyone can contribute with anything missing...

Let's do the FIRST , COMPLETE and BIGGEST list of Amiga games database all over the world! :great

Then, someone had to made something for the PD games... :p


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