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dante2685 10 November 2019 11:19

A1200 + Blizzard 030 problem
 
Hello guys!

I have the problem with my longtime-not-launched Amiga. It is Amiga 1200 with Blizzard 030 (don't remember which model exactly) + 16megs of fast ram installed.
The issue is that when I start up the computer with Blizzard connected the hard drives do not start their work and I get black screen or sometimes red screen. While the card is connected and I push a bit the video socket the hard drives start, but nevertheless I still get black or red screen with no boot to Workbench.

If I disconnect Blizzard from the mainboard the computer boots normally.

Can you please help me with diagonosis of the problem and how to fix it? Is my Blizzard dead or there is some other issue?

-Acid- 10 November 2019 12:20

Clean the contacts of the main board and 030 and try again.

dante2685 10 November 2019 23:06

Contacts seem to be ok as the card was taken out and placed in a several times. The thing that worries me is that video output as pushing it a bit starts the hard drives though no workbench boot is done, just a red screen.

Marchie 10 November 2019 23:39

Both the Blizzard and the hard drives (if they're actual drives, not CF cards) draw significant amounts of power, so it could be that your power supply is dying, maybe try another PSU (if you have one) or disconnect the hard drives and see if the system boots with just the Blizzard but no HDD.

dodke 12 November 2019 10:50

If you reinserted the card try pulling it out by 1 or 2 mm afterwards. I've had to do that with my 1230 IV.

lord of time 12 November 2019 11:46

sounds PSU related to me... my guess is a funky 5v line but I am no expert, still cant hurt to check PSU.

crazyc 12 November 2019 15:00

Do you still have the upper shield on the motherboard?
If so, just make sure the little folded down bit is not touching the card at all.

dante2685 12 November 2019 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyc (Post 1358406)
Do you still have the upper shield on the motherboard?
If so, just make sure the little folded down bit is not touching the card at all.

Can you please specify what shield you have on mind? How does it look like or where is it located?

dante2685 12 November 2019 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord of time (Post 1358360)
sounds PSU related to me... my guess is a funky 5v line but I am no expert, still cant hurt to check PSU.

Yeah I thought the same at first, but unfortunately do not have any original PSU for Amiga for replacement and gonna need to adjust some of PC's PSU to check it out.

crazyc 12 November 2019 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by dante2685 (Post 1358508)
Can you please specify what shield you have on mind? How does it look like or where is it located?

Oh just the metal upper shield over the motherboard. There is a vertical lip that is over the connector for the accelerator and it should be fine but you would not believe how often just bending that back solves issues....

dante2685 13 November 2019 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyc (Post 1358519)
Oh just the metal upper shield over the motherboard. There is a vertical lip that is over the connector for the accelerator and it should be fine but you would not believe how often just bending that back solves issues....

I forgot to mention, as I thought it's not that important, but my Amiga is in Infinity tower, so I do not reckon any metal shield to be there :)

Kin Hell 16 November 2019 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by dante2685 (Post 1357885)
Hello guys!

I have the problem with my longtime-not-launched Amiga. It is Amiga 1200 with Blizzard 030 (don't remember which model exactly) + 16megs of fast ram installed.
The issue is that when I start up the computer with Blizzard connected the hard drives do not start their work and I get black screen or sometimes red screen. While the card is connected and I push a bit the video socket the hard drives start, but nevertheless I still get black or red screen with no boot to Workbench.

If I disconnect Blizzard from the mainboard the computer boots normally.

Can you please help me with diagonosis of the problem and how to fix it? Is my Blizzard dead or there is some other issue?

Which version of Blizzard 030 is it please?

Take a photo of front & back of card & post here. ;)

dante2685 17 November 2019 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kin Hell (Post 1359386)
Which version of Blizzard 030 is it please?

Take a photo of front & back of card & post here. ;)

I didn't have opportunity to take a photo as the card is not at my house, but it is MkIV version of Blizzard 030.

Kin Hell 23 November 2019 14:10

Need hi res pic's....

blade002 23 November 2019 14:29

I have the same card and my A1200 was resetting over and over until I bought a new PSU. It fixed the problem :) have you tried different Ram modules?

fc.studio 02 December 2019 12:56

If you have installed an old 2,5" hard drive I suggest you to replace it using a cheap IDE adapter/compact flash combination. My A1200 has a 2GB compact flash as hard drive + Blizzard 1230 IV / 32 MB + PSU 3,0A (! low output) and it works great.

dante2685 14 January 2020 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by blade002 (Post 1360868)
I have the same card and my A1200 was resetting over and over until I bought a new PSU. It fixed the problem :) have you tried different Ram modules?

Don't have any spare ones.

dante2685 14 January 2020 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc.studio (Post 1362659)
If you have installed an old 2,5" hard drive I suggest you to replace it using a cheap IDE adapter/compact flash combination. My A1200 has a 2GB compact flash as hard drive + Blizzard 1230 IV / 32 MB + PSU 3,0A (! low output) and it works great.

Yes these are old hdd's but they work fine without Blizzard and also PSU has been checked with voltmeter and it is also fine.

meynaf 15 January 2020 08:11

The PSU may be fine but just too weak for the config.
Booting with Blizzard but no HDD would tell more. You may also try to unplug all floppy drives and see if it makes the situation better.

dante2685 17 January 2020 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf (Post 1371662)
The PSU may be fine but just too weak for the config.
Booting with Blizzard but no HDD would tell more. You may also try to unplug all floppy drives and see if it makes the situation better.

So suddenly it became too weak?


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